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@jorge_sds@mastodon.world

Absolutely. Problem is with most restrictions we see violent crimes go up. Thats the problem.

@kinyutaka @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @jorge_sds @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

Bullshit.

While there is an increase in non-gun crime that can be attributed to the idea of "really wanting to kill people", the fact is that it's all but impossible to kill 10 people in a minute with a knife.

And most of us aren't talking about going full Japan with a total gun ban. We want more common sense restrictions that get enforced.

@kinyutaka

There are far easier ways to kill 10 people in a minute than either a knife or a gun. You could mix up a poison trivially and kill people en masse rather easily

@jorge_sds@mastodon.world @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @jorge_sds @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

That has happened in Japan. And in America, too. I mean, are you really saying that we shouldn't talk about gun reform because it won't stop all crime ever?

@kinyutaka

No i am saying that we should address the problem by ensuring our solutions have a net positive effect on overall crine

@jorge_sds@mastodon.world @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @jorge_sds @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

Great, then let's start by making it so people in psychiatric care can't get an assault rifle. Or is that going too far?

@kinyutaka

Too far no, but a disaster when you think about it. As you know based on your statement mental health is indeed where we need to focus. However punishing people for seeing a doctor and effectively abolishing doctor patirnt confidentiality has the opposite effect and keeps people from seeking trestment.

What we need is not to punish thrm but also give them easy and free access to mental health, with all the privacy in tact

@jorge_sds@mastodon.world @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @jorge_sds @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

So, your answer then is "Yes, I think that is too far"

Just admit it. You don't want to have any barriers to getting guns, even temporary barriers like waiting periods.

@kinyutaka

No not too far, self defeating, huge difference.

No i do t want attempted solutions that make things worse (like many but not all barriers to getting guns)... i do want the actual solutions implemented like free access to psychiatrkc health for everyone

@jorge_sds@mastodon.world @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @jorge_sds @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

You just don't want to be bothered to come up with the solution, and will shoot down every suggestion given.

I'm tired of arguing with you.

@kinyutaka

Now your just being dramatic. I literally mentioned the exact solution several tines... free and easy access to mental health (psychiatry and medication). That is by far the easiest solution, and a real solution.

@jorge_sds@mastodon.world @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

@kinyutaka

Partial bans arent effective, so the fact that its "common sense" but still makes things worse is exsctly the problem... democrats appeal to the unedilucated common sense, which iften makes it worse, rather than stick to the numbers and foing what works... why? Because what works isnt what the democrats keep demanding and thet care far more about votes than fixing the problem.

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