@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper

And when someone staps someone or beats them with a bat do we cry about how bats are legal... Yes there is a problem, but absurd solutions like making guns illegal is obviously not the answer.

@freemo @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
Hmm, there is a disconnect: it was stated that guns should be regulated, with strict background checks. Your reply talks of "making guns illegal".

Did you reply to the wrong toot here or do you think background checks are a bad thing? If so, do you wish for people with known agression problems (psychological disorders or former history of violent crimes) to be able to have guns?

@admitsWrongIfProven

I dont think you can see the toot i replied to, the person blocked me.

I am not against background checks in their current form, which is thurough and complete.

The one issue with the current setup is loopholes at gun shows. But that doesnt appear to be a huge source of actual problems so yra im for background checks as they exist today.
@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper

@freemo @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
You might want to state that, the toot history i read showed you ignoring the distinction between banning and background checks... it changes the meaning completely.

@admitsWrongIfProven

No i was quite clear i was talking about a specific type of commonly proposed restriction, banning.

@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper

@freemo And who you responded to was quite clear that background checks matter.

@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo we already have background checks... Just not for private sale. They have straw purchase laws that making gifting a weapon a pain too. But some states do allow private sale which doesn't need to go through federal background checks. It's not a loophole. It's common sense. If I have a firearm I dont use and a friend or family member interested in buying it from me there is no need to have government involved adding their taxes and fees.

@thatguyoverthere @admitsWrongIfProven

I mean i dont mind private sales. But yea they should be taxed and follow regulation ideally.

@freemo @admitsWrongIfProven I don't agree. We're taxed plenty. Giving government more chances to shake people down doesn't sound great to me. Next they'll say I didn't charge enough because they didn't get as much tax as they'd like (this happens with private car sales).

why does the state need a cut if I'm not making a profit? I think there are often laws setting boundaries for what qualifies as a private sale. A person manufacturing weapons for sale must register with the government and add serial numbers so it's not like allowing private sale allows me to print and sell fgc-9 over and over or something. In fact if I had one I think it would be excluded from private sale allowance because it's homemade anyway. I also can't rent hours on my printer to someone who wants to make one. I can't even let you use my drill press for an 80% build. There is lots of regulation in place around private sale/trade/manufacture already.
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@thatguyoverthere @admitsWrongIfProven

Circumventing the law on taxes cause they are too high is not the way to address it. Im all for lowering taxes but not by illegally avoiding them.

That said id be ok with private sales being untaxed

@freemo @admitsWrongIfProven If you aren't making a profit there is no tax owed simple as. Calling a sale of something I bought and am not selling for profit taxable is absurd
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