@winstonsmith Why are you calling me dumb and then linking to legislation that **Exactly** agrees with what I just said... I quote from the link you just gave:

that, to many participants in the scheme, constitutes primarily an opportunity to buy or sell an investment opportunity, whether personally or through an agent, rather than an opportunity to buy or supply goods or services; and

@freemo it doesn't agree with what you said

@winstonsmith It is virtually word for word what I said... a scheme where the primary source of money is getting new tiers of investors rather than selling a product.... read the law you posted again nearly exactly what I said:

that, to many participants in the scheme, constitutes primarily an opportunity to buy or sell an investment opportunity, whether personally or through an agent, rather than an opportunity to buy or supply goods or services; and

@freemo how about you fuck you, when you've fucked off, fuck off some more.

Your lies are not welcome in my replies

@freemo MLMs are investment scams, no different to Pyramid scams. The products are immaterial compared to recruitment rewards.

You can Google this

@winstonsmith WHEN an MLM is an investment scam, then it is a pyramid scheme... An MLM that is not an investment scam is not... this isnt complicated.

@freemo maybe in the USA?

I'm not talking about the USA, Genius

@winstonsmith

No not just the USA the definition is the same in most countries.. just as the legal definition you posted earlier completely agreed with what I said, youd find that to be true in the legal definition of most countries with pyramid scheme laws.

@freemo They're illegal. Amway operators literally fled the country when the law was passed, they should know.

@freemo read again.

MLMs are primarily an investment opportunity. This bullshit about goods and services is only fooling you, it would seem.

@winstonsmith

That depends on the MLM. A pyramid scheme is a type of MLM where the primary source of income is investors... so if you have a MLM that is primarly that, then it is a pyramid scheme, but a MLM is not automatically a pyramid scheme. If and when they have real products that are sold then they are not, by legal definition.

@freemo where do you get this utter, complete bullshit from?

MLMs came about after Pyramid schemes, that isn't even chronologically correct

@winstonsmith So? A concept with is a super set does not need to preceed the existance of a subset... thats not how logic works. Which came first is irrelevant... its even less irrelevant since we are talking about a legal definition, not a common definition.

@freemo type faster. You're a bit slow with the sophistry.

@winstonsmith Ahh when you cant make any logical sense, just resort to personal attacks...

Thanks, this is the point I know you realize you are clueless... i mean i know you cant admit you are wrong, but this is effectively the same thing.

@freemo just fuck off, you're not welcome here

None of what you said is true or correct

@winstonsmith As I said, you already responded to show you knew you were wrong... so im satisfied, bye.