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I thinkt he book awards can do whatever they like, and are within their rights. But it was the wrong decision. As far as I know Drew didnt hire any non-union writers, nor as she personally violated any of their asks... She is perfectly ok.
The bigger issue is the cancel culture, I know I will not give any attention to the book awards (As is my right) due to this decision.
She's crossing a picket line, her show is a struck show. That's why she's being called a scab.
Cancel culture is just a silly way of saying consequences. It's not a real thing, people just want to pretend there's a new wave of mob mentality punishing people, and it's just sometimes people get a backlash for their actions. It's not new, it's consequences.
> She's crossing a picket line, her show is a struck show. That's why she's being called a scab.
Yes that is the opinion of the strikers it seems. My opinion is that she is perfectly ok with what she did morally and the strikers are wrong to take issue with it. To each their own, we dont have to agree.
> Cancel culture is just a silly way of saying consequences. It's not a real thing, people just want to pretend there's a new wave of mob mentality punishing people, and it's just sometimes people get a backlash for their actions.
No you are thinking of the word Boycott. Cancel Culture is not simply any act of boycotting... It is when **frivilous** boycotts are central to the current culture. This is distinctly different from all acts of canceling someone (the word "Culture" in "Cancel Culture" isnt just there for show).
> It's not new, it's consequences.
Boycotting isnt new.. Cancel Culture is, re:above
"Yes that is the opinion of the strikers it seems."
Incorrect, it's a fact. Her show is listed as a struck show, and they will be picketing it.
"My opinion is..."
...Not what the unions use to determine which shows are struck shows.
"No you are thinking of the word Boycott."
Incorrect. Consequences may include boycotts, but boycotts are not the only consequences when there's a backlash.
"It is when frivilous boycotts"
Irrelevant.
> Incorrect, it's a fact. Her show is listed as a struck show, and they will be picketing it.
Yup, they were of the **opinion** that she was in violation, and decided to list the show as a striked show...
The fact that they listed it as striked is fact. It is the strikers **opinion**, and the decision that fueled, that caused them to make that decision.
> ...Not what the unions use to determine which shows are struck shows.
Of course not, they use their opinions to determine what to strike, not mine, duh.
When did I say my opinion is what unions base their decisions on? Its like your arguing against some imagined argument not even being discussed... your arguing against things i didn't disagree with.
> Incorrect. Consequences may include boycotts, but boycotts are not the only consequences when there's a backlash.
This is really getting silly now.. you keep saying you disagree with me, then state a bunch of stuff that in no way disagrees with me.
At no point did I say or even hint, that somehow boycotts are the only consequence when there is backlash... literally this whole comment was just you disagreeing with stuff I never asserted because you didnt bother to read what you disagreed with carefully first.
> Irrelevant
Since you are arguing that a term i used means something other than what it meant, and that understanding terminology is key to accurate communitication, it is very much relevant at this point.
"Yup, they were of the opinion..."
Nope, still a fact her show was already on the list of WGA shows and therefore struck. You may not like that fact, which is your opinion, but it remains a fact.
"This is really getting silly now."
What's silly is that several people have attempted to explain to you what cancel culture is but you refuse to accept the correction.
"Since you are arguing that a term i used means something other than what it meant"
irony
Holy hell, you are still arguing against fictional things I didnt say....
> Nope, still a fact her show was already on the list of WGA shows and therefore struck.
At no point did I say her show was or was not on the list of WGA shows.
You are literally arguing with a fantasy of something being said that wasnt said, its really annoying.
> What's silly is that several people have attempted to explain to you what cancel culture is but you refuse to accept the correction.
How many wrong people need to say something before I am obligated to accept it as true? The number of people who may disagree with me doesnt really matter when they are all wrong... just like if I got a bunch of Trumpers in here all saying the same nonsense it doesnt make them right either.
> irony
Finally something we agree on.
"At no point did I say her show was or was not on the list of WGA shows."
You said "they were of the opinion that she was in violation, and decided to list the show as a striked show." which is incorrect.
Her show was already on the list of WGA shows, before she decided to bring the show back. It was a struck show before this controversy. Her show is struck based on the rules of the guild, she had WGA writers. It's not based on opinion, as you erroneously claimed.
I dont know how many times your going to agree with me and start it with "incorrect"... but here we go again...
> Her show was already on the list of WGA shows, before she decided to bring the show back.
And at what point did I say that wasnt the case?
> Her show is struck based on the rules of the guild, she had WGA writers.
Yup. When the people who compiled the list had to form an opinion on which qualified and which didnt they used the rules of the guild to do so. Since she had WGA writers in the past they decided to add it to the striked list.
> It's not based on opinion, as you erroneously claimed.
My best guess is that your misunderstanding what the word opinion means.
You do realize you can hold an opinion that happens to be fact right? An opinion may or may not be fact or based on fact. While opinions that arent facts will always just be opinions, opinions which are facts, are still opinions, they are fact-based opinions.
Here is the definition fromt he dictionary"
"a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."
Pay close attention to the word "necessarily", clearly showing opinions are still opinions even when they happen to be rooted in facts.
Again you clearly dont understand the meaning of the word opinion... When an opinion is formed solely based on facts, it is still an opinion...
You seem to think opinion means "not a fact, just my personal idea i formed on a whim"... thats not the definition of an opinion. I already showed you the definition of an opinion and why an opinion based on fact is still an opinion...
Thus why you keep thinking your disagreeing with me when your not.. you think im saying "its an opinion not a fact" when in reality im saying 'Its an opinion, and an opinion can be a fact"
> you keep claiming it's an opinion.
Yes I do, saying something is an opinion is **not** the same as saying it isnt a fact, as I have said multiple times and you refuse to listen.
"Again you clearly dont understand the meaning of the word opinion"
Nope, I'm correcting your errors. Pretending I don't know what a word means won't help you.
"'Its an opinion, and an opinion can be a fact""
LOL sure jan
Well thanks, you now proved y point, QED. ? Apparently me explaining it 4 times over AND the dictionary telling you youre wrong and your still clueless...
This is the point you've just proven you are a waste of my time, if you cant even understand the meaning of a simple word clearly explained by the dictionary.
Please do not tag or contact me again, you either are incapable of an intelligent conversation or intentionally arguing in bad faith and refusing to listen.
Again: You are not welcome to contact me again, thank you.
"Apparently me explaining it 4 times over AND the dictionary telling you youre wrong
You're incorrect, and your explanations don't help you. The dictionary also doesn't help you.
Since i have asked you to leave me alone you have now repeatidly sent me 4 messages.
You. keep. replying. to. me.
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"When the people who compiled the list had to form an opinion on which"
Incorrect. Whether wga writers were on her show isn't an opinion. Any talk show that has wga writers is a struck show when the wga goes on strike. It's not based on opinion. Pretending it's an opinion is false, you need a better argument if you want to pretend what she did isn't in violation of the strike.
"at what point did I say that wasnt the case?"
you keep claiming it's an opinion.