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@emmreef I am no lover of the extreme left.. but they certainly do have a point, these are all examples of nations who stole their land from existing indigenous peoples. While I wouldnt go so far as saying the solution is to abolish the countries there is a very valid point in there.
@freemo funny how they leave out South/Central American countries, China & Russia in their argument.
@emmreef Yup, it is absolutely an incomplete list and more countries should be added to it. China is a good one, so is russia.
That said after more consideration there is one huge difference... genocide/apartheid... China and russia took over regions, but didnt exeterminate 99% of the people and then moved in... They moved in, they stole resources, so its worth being upset over... but extermination to take the land is definately one level above what china and russia does... not that they are **that** much better.
Sorry I was busy..
So yes, but that wasnt what we were discussing.. We both agree there are whtie and non-white genocides... we also both agree there were white and non-white annexes. What we were discussing is examples of genocide used along with anexing to create the modern day country.
With the china and the Dzungar people, for example, the Dzungar historic territory does not lie within modern day china (it is to the north west). So it wouldnt be an example.
The russian example would be a good one, even if it only makes up a small part of russia, that one definitely counts.
@freemo the Qing Dynasty exterminated the Dzungar people in the 18th century. Russia exterminated the Cirassians people in the 19th century. I'm sure there are more examples.