It could be me but it seems like a lot of younger people these days are voting more progressive left-ish in favor of humanity and looking at a more open future
I do hope we still have a world to vote for when our time comes..😟
If we keep going like this it feels almost inevitable we have to start all over again
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@stux whaat do you mean "when ouyr time comes" ... its your time right now... please stop burning it down, this is all you guys right now (and by you i include myself as im the older end of the newer generation taking over)
@freemo That's not true
Most of the gov's exicst of "older people", look at yours.. dude..
@freemo Voting doesn't mean shit if your gov is dying, or believing the most ridiculous things because I guess they have dementia..
@stux Why not... your (us) the ones voting the people with dementia... means a lot... maybe if people llistened to me when I said "dont vote for racist dementia ridden joe" we wouldnt have him... but noooo, im a nazi for pointing that out or something apparently.
@freemo You're kidding me right? 
I did not even meant Joe in this case lol!
It's fucking Trump man..
The world is laughing and crying at the USA at the same time for that dangerous fascist clown
I mean, pointing our Joe is racist and senile, isnt to say that Trump isnt also racist and, well not senile but an idiot... sure.
But Joe is our president, not Trump, and while the lesser idiot, the greater in terms of senility for sure.
@freemo Both are great examples of well, waaaay to old and senile people to lead a country with so many people..
I get that experience is a thing, but where the F is the age limit in public places? It's freaking absurd to see such elderly people have such important functions with so many consuequeses
And still Trump is (trying, i guess?) to run for president.. how the hell do people make that possible.. 
I have no words
@stux The fact that Trump might actually win after his last HORRIFIC go at it is, I agree, laughable to say the least.
I dont fully agree with you that there should be an age limit. Its not about age, its about the senility... like Trump wasnt senile, he should of lost cause he was a piece of shit, not his age (or just being an idiot more generally)...
Biden is senile and i would have said he should not have won not because of his age but because of his obvious mental decline....
Lets just hope we get someone new this next round who is better than either of these asshats.
@freemo I also asked that a little while ago if there isn't a test etc for that but i got some good answers
"What is senile?"
it can be interpreted depending and such, and an age limit is just clear as day
@stux The problem is a person can live to 100+ and never show senility.
Senility is well defined in medical terms and can even be seen on an MRI... it does not have to go hand in hand with being old... yes you need to be old to get it, but being old doesnt garuntee senility either.
The way i see it if someone is senile it shows... everyone can see without much doubt biden is senile... so at that point it should be the voters who have the good sense to pick someone else... the fact they dont doesnt mean we need a law, it means we need to teach our children to be better voters.
@freemo True, true, i don't know 
i am no docter, nor even close lol
We can teach them to vote "better" but if there's nothing "better" to vote for it doesn't mean a thing and won't help either
Ugh.. it's freaking hard to see to turn the USA into a circus with scary clowns.. you guys need to be the example, not the laughing stock
The modern term for senility is dementia. and it comes in multiple forms, Alzheimer for example is the most common form people know. But yea this stuff can be seen on MRI, some people get diseases that cuase dimentia in old age, others dont.
> We can teach them to vote "better" but if there's nothing "better" to vote for it doesn't mean a thing and won't help either
This statement is wildly confusing... who you have to vote for is... the result of who you vote for... My presidential choice is the result of who i vote for at the party level... who is availible at the party level is the result of who i vote for at the local level, who is availible at the local level is the result of who i vote for out of the counsels and new comers... You act like they are forced to some small selection of people to vote for.... **you** (us) get to select every person at every level every step of the way.... so its still on **you** .. you (us) choose to vote for this people from the local elections on up... we put them on the ballot, and then voted for them.
@stux but what im saying is that because we get to place the people on the ballot int he first place, we are the ones to blame for only having craxies to choose from.
If we had simply picked sane people for our ballots then we would have sane people to pick from... remember by the time we see the ballots these people have went through dozens of lower tier elections to get there... its those lower tier elections that decide if the crazies or the sane ones bubble to the top.
when someone guys an election with cash thats just a fancy way of saying "they used their money to convince people to vote for them"... that isnt people not having a choice, that is people having 100% of the choice, and letting that choice be bought..
For every vote someone buys someone else had to sell their vote.. So you can just as easily say voters had 100% of the choice,a nd they chose to sell their vote unethically rather than to use it.
Yea but in a society where votes cant be bought then no one **needs** even a dollar in donors... In fact if we saw a person take even a dollar and spend it on advertising we would refuse to vote for that person for the immorality of trying to game the election with money, it would ruin their career... only leaving the people who refuse donations for consideration...
We dont do that, and thats our fault as voters (not the people spending money)... we should
> if 80% if the people on the ballots are madman how big do you guess chances are the sane people are getting into office
100%, if voters were responsible.
They arent responsible though, and thats what im saying... **we** are 100% guilty for this situation because we choose to not pick the 20% sane people... thats on us.. cause we know damn well who they are, we just cant be arsed to get involved at lower levels.
@freemo Let's pick 50% 
@stux At this point i'd just settle for something that isnt a lizard in a human skin suit (obviously im half joking)
@freemo Alright, alright.. I'll just send in my battlebot 
http://stux.stuxnet.ai/robot
@stux I hope the damn thing is nuclear :)
By the way you ever play screeps?
@stux I did its just slow as well... like reallly slow to load.. its slowly facing inthe robot now after 2 minutes
@freemo yeah sorry.. 
80mb i think
@stux shouldnt be the size im on a 1 GB two way link a few feet from the main exchange :) I literally bought my house specifically for the high speed internet :)
@stux its likely cause im on wayland... 3d graphics int he browser or other graphics stuff can be glitchy.. id have to log back into Xorg to get it to work I think.
@freemo aaah yes! It does use the GPU via WebGL
@freemo Hmm it's hosted on gitlab pages (gitcat.org) grin
@stux if its the hosting at 10mb they need to be pretty slow....
@freemo Hetzner VPS in Germany I think but has a bit up
hmmmmmmmmmmm
@stux my git server is pretty beefy, feel free to use it as always. Since the upgrades it doesnt have the downtime issues it faced for like a month there (it was a major overhaul to fix it)
@freemo Ah thanks 
I have GitLab.com and GitHub but i've setup a special instance for my ThreeJS projects i currently create with auto deplay and such
Of course use whatever works best for you.
Though your going to get a lot more power out of the qoto git post upgrade from a few angles. Cant garuntee it will hav ethe same uptime (so not saying its the best choice).. but in terms of CI power, the ultimate license, bandwidth, and storage, obviously the qoto gitlab will be significantly more pwoerful, especially now sine the overhaul.
@freemo welllllll!
I've setup a sm0ll server with runner for the lab and since im the only one who can post projects im good
It's only "plain html" pages and later on React
@freemo That last one quite fast https://gitcat.org/stux/robot/-/jobs/113
@stux Sounds like you got what you need... like i said, its there for you should it be useful to you is all :)
I spend a lot of money on it whether it gets used or not. :) Luckily I use it alot.. i managed like 30 projects and some can be rather active.
@stux Like I said, go with what works.. its just an open invite for you should you need it (we have a very very beefy CI runner and a second one with GPU acceleration)
@freemo Thanks! I already got an acc i think even
@stux yea you should...
Just FYI for some strange reason gitcat took me a solid minute or two to load.. might just be cause im int he USA or something i dunno. It did load just now though.
@freemo Haha
Ofc i know WE are the ones WE vote into office etc but my point is that when you can only vote on crazies there is no choice
These days we "vote for the lesser evil" but that insane! We should have difficulties for chosing people on how good they are
It's turned around is what i mean
if 80% if the people on the ballots are madman how big do you guess chances are the sane people are getting into office