Over the years I have had hundreds of left-wing people block me for sincerely asking for the facts in a situation, a situation I agree with them on... I cant recall a right-winger ever doing that (not that they dont have a ton of other issues).

As someone who has and still does lean left I have to say every day i become more and more ashamed of the way "my side" behaves... its depressing to see.

@freemo That's why one should generally not say "i am left", it's worth to figure out what the actually relevant term is to avoid wrong associations. I fail on this too, from time to time.

*takes a breath*

I'm for universal unalienable human rights and for working together to minimize suffering.

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Not all of them say they are left explicitly, but it is quite obvious.

@freemo On second thought, maybe we can express this more along the lines of "the more aligned with sides, the more gatekeeping and demanding conformity without explanation".

Reject sides. Embrace content.

@admitsWrongIfProven Yes that is true, and being polarized is never a good idea. But in this case im pointing out thee difference between the sides and how they manifest.

Blocking people for fact seeking and asking questions to understand is very much a uniquely left thing.

@freemo Hmm, who associates with authority (right) is usually who sends hateful messages, picures of dead people, requests for k-y-s, symbols associated with Nazis. Seen all of those.

Thus: i would like to re-frame that blocking is a good thing. Block me anytime before you do one of those.

@admitsWrongIfProven Authority isnt right, thats up.... right is conservatism (prefering traditional values), not authoritarianism.

@freemo Ah, maybe we have a bit different views on this because we come from different places. Don't forget a lot of what i know of "right wing" is associated with nazis. Like actual nazis, in the third reich. They sure were authoritarian.

@admitsWrongIfProven

Could be some of that.

But super right wing being associated with a socialist party seems weird, though I agree it was very right in **many** ways it isnt really a great example of what the right is.

@freemo Socialist... lot of lies there, too. The moment someone takes "we should work together and share" as a motto and then installs a dictatorship, that person is just a dictator with a different camouflage. Most of them use some kind of camo, that's just practical. After all, if you shit into everyones cup and try to dominate them with pure violence, that's not realistically sustainable.

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@admitsWrongIfProven Sounds like your associating the left with "It must be something good"... Nothign about left vs right has anything to do with dictatorship (thats up and down). So a left-wing dictatorship is still left wing, just like a right wing dictatorship is still right wing.

@freemo I cannot bring together the equalizing (evening out wealth is what you named, i would probably expect a bit more in the equality/equity area: as an opposite of the nazis euthanasia of the disabled) that you rightly named with dictatorship, sorry. At that point, a dictator would have to not take any personal gain... so it is theoretically possible, but i cannot think of an example.

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