🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@patrician

Skilled workers generally can. I get multiple job offers every day even when im not looking. I recognize thats not everyone but anyone who bothered to aquire highly marketable skills would be in that boat.

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@icedquinn

yes we do... yet ive never heard that or an argument of that nature used. In fact usually the opposite of it is used

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@icedquinn

Never heard that logic used before. No one seems to think that if something is ok if your paid to do it that therefore it must be fine to force you to do it for free

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@patrician

You are of course welcome to that opinion. While I do not agree with the "too much power over employees part" I do agree that there is potential for abuse and that is why I would support any law that would make it illegal to use that data or technology outside of working hours.

With that said I dont feel employees should have too many rights other than some basics simply because they are being paid, and a company has a right to decide what they are willing to pay for, if what they want to pay employees to do is let them use facial recognition on them, thats the companies right. If an employee doesnt like it, protest with your feet and work somewhere else.

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@patrician

Only employees, not the general public.. as I said I'm ok with that. I am not ok if it is used on the general public or outside of work hours, however, and would support any move to codify that in the law.

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@patrician

I did.. I explicitly said I supported it when done on employees when at work, and did not support it when out of work. So I only support laws that preserve that dynamic and oppose laws that dont.

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@patrician

Wrong, since people can opt-in to facial recognition then simply having the means to do it, and even actively doing it, would in no way suggest illegal activity.

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@patrician

Obviously the AI wont forget your face when your off the clock. But as long as it is illegal to **use** that AI on you when your off the clock, and as long as the law is enforced, I am perfectly ok with that.

If the law isnt enforced then they are already using pictures of your face off the clock anyway that learned what you look like so its a moot point to argue they might break the law.

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@patrician

You seem to miss the point... when you are at work it should be perfectly legal for your company to use facial recognition on you. When your not at work it should be illegal without consent.

Understand now?

@eff

@eff I'm ok with this being used on employees, opposed on the general public.