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@vandys

You asked for SEM images of the virus, thats it.. it shows it while interacting with the cell. What are you asking for, a SEM of the virus in isolation while not acting on the cell. Not sure why it matters if the cell is present or not, but sure, there are SEM images of the virus by itself too.I attached a closeup of one.

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@anon00110

Keep in mind we arent just talking about someone doing a metastudy here or something. He was literally downloading their **entire** database. By the time they stopped him the second time he had downloaded 3.5 million papers.

@akeno @madmike @Moon @Coyote

@vandys

Either way here is one study (and there are countless others like it) that identify the virus and produce quite a few SEM images of it while they interact with various cells.

nature.com/articles/s41598-020

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@icedquinn

Yup, there is a very legit replication crisis in medicine, but biology changes over time, and like you said even things like aspirin change as we as a species respond to it generation after generation, or even decade after decade.

@vandys @Coyote

@vandys

your words dont make sense... what is a "full SEM data set"... scanning electron microscope produces images not data sets.. and what do you mean "including a reference to the source".. what sort of "reference"?

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@vandys

Never said they were perfect. Notice that the replication crisis is focused the medical field, and most especially psychology. This should not at all be surprising for many reasons. for starters it is a less exact field with a lot of unknowns. Second, it is a field where conditions change. An antibiotic that is 99% effective one year might be 10% effective a few years later. That might lead to a lack of replication but it doesnt mean that either study was in error.

@Coyote

@vandys

What, nothing you just said is remotely true. We have SEM of covid from patients who caught COVID, what the hell are you talking about.

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@anon00110

Never mind i was partly wrong. I just rechecked and on his dirt attempt he was given a free pass and set free on settlement, though it appears he did it a second time and this time they threw the book at him.

@akeno @madmike @Moon @Coyote

@anon00110

What, no he didnt, he didnt even go to jail. He settled out of court that if he returned the data he was free, and he did.

@akeno @madmike @Moon @Coyote

@Coyote

Agreed, i mean we got flat earthers, even in columbus' time flat earthers were the morons of the crowd.

@akeno @madmike @Moon

@Coyote

The conspiracy theory nonsense is mostly an american thing. American is like a big mental hospital.. everyone is insane, no one thinks their insane, and if you happen to be a sane person in america eventually youll go insane. The end result are people that believe in this garbage. People become delusional when they are surrounded by insanity as its hard to know what reality is anymore.

@akeno @madmike @Moon

@Coyote That depends.. there is private funding sometimes, and as I stated when that happens if there is a conflict of interest it must and usually is mentioned in the paper.

However very often papers are funded by the paywall for sure. though it depends on the industry.

For example if you spend 50 hours writing a paper, which is very doable for a computer science paper you would be paid on average about 50$ an hour as the author from the publishing journal (which comes from the paywall).

If a peer reviewer spends about 10 hours reviewing it then likewise on average their pay would be about 50$ an hour. Again more than enough to cover their time.

However if we talk about medical studies or more expensive endeavors than that can be very different as thee are patents involved in that case and it is the patents that draw most of the money.

@akeno

Again citing links of other people who are idiots and beleive the same thing of you does not make the nonsense you believe suddenly true.

@Moon @madmike @Coyote

@Coyote usually if a study is funded by the government then it often, though not always, wont be behind a paywall. It is public and therefore not for private infrastructure.

When a study is private it means they couldn't get government funding and they are therefore paying for the study with that paywall (albeit after the fact).

@Coyote No thats not remotely true. Funding in the vast majority of cases must come on the condition that the funding is received no matter the outcome of the study. Moreover you do not get funding specifically for favorable studies. Thats just not how it works.. Why do you think there are paywalls? You are paying for the studies, and the fact that the vast majority of those payments are subscriptions to all studies (not just the ones that agree with your biases) you can not, even if you wished to, pay for studies to be favorable.

Obviously there are always a few exceptions of fraudulent studies. But they are rare and few between and the community is quick to expose them.

Whenever a study **is** funded by a company or entity with a personal interest in the outcome it absolutely must be stated in the study itself and the conflict of interest exposed.

If you ever actually worked on peer reviewed publications in any capacity you'd understand most of what you said is not at all applicable. Most scientist will happily make 1/10th of what they could make just to ensure their work is objective and without backally deals.

@Coyote Yup, paywalls on research is a tragedy and many researchers agree on that. But keep in mind that isnt so much the researchers fault, they need to make a living. The problem is most research in the US is done for profit and very little is 100% government funded. If americans were more willing to use their tax dollars on science rather than other wastes of money then we could actually make more research public.

@freemo

that's cool, I don't know why, but it remined me of this (non-sequiter, just cool) thing:

"The result is a motorcycle that looks more like an organic exoskeleton than a machine. That was a very deliberate design goal for APWorks, which programmed the algorithm to use bionic structures and natural growth processes and patterns as the basis for developing a strong but lightweight structure"

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2016/05/20160522-airbus.html

Due to bandwidth limitations, I offer only an example of "organic" skeletons grown using AI to fill in minimal material for maximum structural strength... AI, being "organic" in fabrication with artificial materials is fucking cool. (even with more basics too, like out of aluminum).

It wasn't long ago, it seems, but in the 1990s I watched a guy do a talk on OLED tech and we all just went "cool, some day we can hang our TV on the wall like a picture" and went home to tell my friends who didn't believe me.

When you think of the shit we will have in 20 years, if you are smart, you instantly know, it's going to be totally different, and better in a way you haven't even thought of yet.

@Moon

Neither do I.. unfortunately I do care about getting shot by a cop who cares about legality :)

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