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@AmpBenzScientist the minimum allowed in Minnesota is 2/3rds of the sentance in jail and 1/3rd parole/probation. So still going to be more than 5 years behind bars.

@AmpBenzScientist Not possible, minimums entance is 12.5 years, maximum 40 years. so we know it will be within that range.

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Yes that is true.

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Because they showed adequate care for Tony... When he stopped responding they checked multiple times if he is ok and verified he was still breathing. They loosened their hold on him and spend the rest of the time continually checking if he was breathing, and made sure when the EMT arrived that the EMT was able to care for him as well.

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No a few second window (5 - 10) doesnt mean its possible beyond the first few seconds... he sat on him for 3 minutes after his heart stopped.. so no for almost the entierty of that time it was not possible. This also assumes his heart stopped the moment his pulse was taken.

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I never said it was "ok" .. but it isnt violence against an officer.. he made no attempt to harm anyone and made no threat to anyones life verbally or physically.

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I've seen the videos, but if you think i missed soemthing please show a video where Floyd actively assaulted an officer (rather than just struggled to get away).

There is a few seconds after someones heart stops it can reset,past that it is impossible... Anyone else int he thread claiming otherwise doesnt have a clue what their talking about. A 5 second internet search would tell you that, its not hard knowledge to confirm.

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In the few cases where a heart will restart on its own its after a few seconds at most.. and this is still rare.

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He is probably thinking of arrhythmia and not someones heart stopping. A completely stopped heart almost never just starts up on its own.

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Unfortunately even if you go that route the law was clearly demonstrated to have a burden of care placed on the police officer. If someone in your custody falls ill, particularly fatally so, an officer is very much obligated to tend to him. Not doing so would be manslaughter by legal tests.. So at best your arguing he is still guilty but only to 2 of the three charges.

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Yes i am describing them in a way that assumes intent.. this is what a jury does, they view someones actions and try to determine if there is a strong likelihood of implied intent, and is exactly what I am doing.

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Even if that completely absurd line of reasoning that a deadman will rise from the grave completely on his own and run away were true or reasonable it doesnt excuse the actions... We are talking about an arrest over spending some forged money. Floyd was at no point violent nor was the arrest over anything particularly serious. So caring more about him getting away than him surviving is not reasonable regardless.

That said presuming Chauvin could think such an absurd thing in the first place seems very unlikely, chauvin knows people who's heart isnt beating wont just randomly restart and they will be at full strength.

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That makes no sense, chauvin was aware he didnt have a heart beat.. he was also trained in CPR so was aware a persons heart doesnt spontaniously just start beating again on its own and he gets up and runs away.

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You act like im just saying this shit.. i am literally describing the actions caught on tape and yes that is evidence.

I am claiming that the evidence caught on tape shows very clear intent.. a Person does not need to state their intent for one to infer intent from their actions. Thats not how the law works, nor should it. If my actions demonstrate my intent then that is enough, and that is the case here.

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Not once he was aware his heart stopped.

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He was informed that his heart wasnt beating.. so "maintining the submission" servers no purpose once he knew that other than to ensure the man remained dead.

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His actions clearly prove it. When you block people from tending to a man with no beating heart then you obviously want him dead.. him being in fear, as you suggested, only implies his fear was the motivation for wanting him dead, nothign more.

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I dont know how many times i have to repeat this but when a man's heart stops beating and you forcably prevent people from reviving him then yes, his actions show very clear intent he wants him dead. Him being scared Chauvin might get away, or fear of anything else, doesnt change the fact that he wanted him dead, at best it just explains why he wanted him dead.

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Irrelevant, a large man who has not assaulted anyone is no more an excuse for murder than a small man.

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