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@danny

You could largely use the same material to make long-term use plastics. But is that really solving anything? The same amount of plastic is produced even if less of it is one-time use plastic. If the total daily plastic is not going to change does it matter how you use it?

That said the big thing I can think of is if plastic is used more in ways that are unlikely to wind up in the oceans or floating on the wind. A one time use plastic is kinda ok **if** you are sure to dispose of it properly, but if your tossing it out the car window not so much.

So I'd say the only real thing to do ecologically when it comes to plastic is:

1) use less fuel, bike more
2) dispose of your plastic properly (even recyling wont help much, just make sure it winds up in a proper dump)
3) Avoid using plastics to do things like building roads, or as microplastics in products which ultimately will just wind up in the wild.

@yarmo

@freemo @yarmo Jesus, that’s depressing. I’d hadn’t thought of it that way. So the current attempt to reduce plastic consumption at our house is ultimately pointless?

@danny

Mostly yes, that doesnt mean you cant have an effect, it just means you reduce plastic by reducing gasoline and oil consumption and just consume plastic normally without trying to reduce.

Eventually if gasoline is reduced enough there wont be enough plastic (and it wont make sense to make it as primary product) so we will see plastics naturally replaced with alternatives or reduced.

But yea sadly directly reducing personal plastic consumption really has no positive impact.

@yarmo

@Co Apple is the kiddy pool, and that includes the phone.. I own a apple laptop and the OS on their desktops and laptops are tolerable and linux like enough that i can make do. But it isnt my main box by a long shot, I use my linux dexktop and laptop mostly.

That said I find apple phones to be horrible. The selection of apps is limiting and it treats its users like children. You cant even (easily) install third party apps. While I'd rather see linux phones they arent quite there yet, not for mainstream (even the cosmo communicator i posted about in this thread is more of a linux palmtop than a phone, even if you can make calls on it).

In my view for the moment android is really the best choice we have out there for a phone OS.

@Co I'm pretty sure mac users dont even know that their computer has hardware in it at all. They think the images wind up on the screem through fiber optic cables direct from mac HQ that is just fed by a projector displaying the screen on the other end.

@Co If anyone is going to figure out a way to hack a 3090 onto a palm top arm computer its going to be a linux user :)

@freemo I love how in the OS part of the shop page it says it plans on running kali....imagine your server getting trashed by a guy on that. Comedy of the century.

@Co At best you might be able to exploit a few obvious vulnerabilities. This thing isnt bruteforcing anything though!

@noelle I dont know latin formally but I can usually just barely figure out ancient latin texts. The handwriting is more of a problem for me than the language.

I too am, sadly, out of practice.

@worldsendless

great to have that all in one place. I can relate, I usually use archlinux docs even if im not on archlinux specifically because I know they will give me the command line way of doing things. Plus Archlinux is fairly vanilla.

@hans_w

@worldsendless

Setting up wireless is largely unrelated to the WM. But I can understand why you might like a doc that puts it all in one place

@hans_w

@b6hydra This is only partly accurate. They are required to voluntarily enter their vaccination status in the HR database. However they do not need to show proof of vaccination or provide a vaccine passport.

Take that for what you will.

@worldsendless

Always more to learn. The fact that you tried tiling WM and still prefer KDe at least shows that you know what your options are. Good enough by me, computers should be a joy to use and not a pissing contest. I will stick with my i3 for the same reasons :)

@hans_w

@hans_w Agreed one choice of a WM/DE is probably the most personal choice one can make on linux and effects some pretty core things about how you use the system.

I started on KDE and GNOME like most people but I quickly learned about minimal WM's like fluxbox and at a time where computer resources were more limited. For a while I stuck with minimal but tranditional WM, xfce4 and fluxbox mostly back in the day.

Once I discovered tiling window managers though I never looked back. First I moved to QTile that i heavily customized myself and now for the past few years ive been using i3-gaps fairly exclusively on all my systems

@worldsendless Gnome would be my second to last choice for a WM, so you arent really helping your case from my point of view :)

@worldsendless KDE is my last choice for an IDE personally. It tries too hard to be windows.

With that said, it isnt horrific for people who want a more windows or mac like expiernce.

Philadelphian: Gona hit up ant knees fer some wooder ice.

Englis: I'm going to go to anthoney's for some water ice

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