@freemo @lucifargundam @Chrisleon27
Seems like it kinda goes down to how people use social media,
which going by this thread is probably linked to countries, culture and the attitude of that countries population generally.
if we in the UK have the issue with people sexually harassing people, racist abuse towards football (soccer) players online, then the issue is deeper down.
The internet just lets people be nasty to people and hide behind a screen as you would probably get a massive punch if you said it to most people to their face.
Social media is jut a tool, some, like any tool, are better at their intended purpose than others. But when they cause harm, that comes from how they are wielded.
It is similar to religion. A bad person will always find a moral justification for what they do, that could be religion, but doesnt need to be. Yet people often blame the religion. Still others will be extremely moral and good people using religion to explain why
Interestingly most dutch people I know rarely post, and dont have many FB friends. They mostly just use it to chat in messenger with their close friends.
I'm not sure big tech is so responsible. If i join a dutch FB group i find very little in the way of mentally unhealthy interactions, but a lot of it in america.
FB is less so the cause of mental health problems and more so simply a place where those problems manifest strongly.
@pthenq1 valid
I think it was a tongue in cheek joke. Politics isnt really hard in theory, it is just impossible in practice when everyone is a moron :)
I think that **all** medical communities around the world are failures. Some just fail for different reasons and not all of those failures block access to mental health treatment.
That logic breaks down, even if there may be some truth in it. Psychiatrists ultimately are the ones who prescribe psych meds. The doctors who prescribe psych meds are just as inaccessible to the masses as those that provide talk therapy. In fact talk therapy is probably more accessible as there are affordable, albeit out of pocket, online services.
As with most social issues it may be easy to describe the problem, yea extremely difficult to solve it.
That said while there is no one off easy fix if we accept the basic principle of mental health some fixes as first steps become obvious. For starters providing affordable mental health to people is a great start. In the USA even with good insurance you often will have to resort to paying out of pocket to get therapy at all. For many it isnt even an option.
Im not sure thats entierly accurate. In my expiernce the Dutch are sexually rather traditionalist. They arent likely to be casually nude with a person they arent sexual with. Yes there are exceptions on nude beaches and inside a sauna perhaps. But even then it seems to mostly be foreigners and when a Dutch person does engage in it they dont seem to take friends along.
That said they are cool with it from others and their laws do permit it.
This is a common pattern with the Dutch they are extremely tolerant of things they might object to personally. Most dutch dont smoke weed either, but most are perfectly ok with others having the freedom to do so.
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@freemo @lucifargundam @Chrisleon27
There seems to be a different attitude to sex / nudity too, which I guess comes with the idea that you don't just people on what they look like.
Apparently within naturist communities there is far more respect for each other.
Hence here in the UK we seem obsessed with what people look like, to the point where people take ever more steps to look what they consider perfect (as in like some model or social media celeb who is mostly make up and software filters)
Platforms such as Instagram take advantage of this and send people who are less body confident pictures of people who apparently look a lot better, result is people people worse about them selves. Hence the rising mental health issues trying to reach something that is probably not reachable but accepting who you are is perfectly fine.
Dutch women are absolutely breath taking. I have never seen an unattractive dutch woman. That probably makes it a lot easier being cool about sex and nudity :) But yes they have a very casual and practical view of sex and bodies. Its not like other countries that stigmatize it and judge. But I'd say that is still under the umbrella of mental health. You cant have mental health and judge people for what they do behind closed doors with another consenting adult.
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