🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@burner19bb

When did I claim to have top notch reading comprehension. I have no problem at all asking someone to explain themselves. The difference is when I dont understand someone I do actually ask rather than go out of my way to make absurd assumptions.

@matrix @borzoi

@StroopWaffen

I have said 3 times now that I neither dispute it or not. I am pointing out that you made a claim of statistics that you asserted proved your point. The statistics proved to be the exact opposite of what you claimed, and you insisted it still proves your point. Thus demonstrating your inability to be objective in your analysis.

@borzoi

@borzoi

Perhaps, that would be hard to say until you actually bother expressing your opinions instead of just nebulously suggesting you have some really good point but you wont say what it is and everyone just has to trust you that its super smart of you.

@matrix @burner19bb

@Reyson

Actually I said quite the opposite. Both poor whites and poor blacks commit more crime than those who arent poor. Clearly pointing out that poverty is a huge driving factor. I simply pointed out it isnt the **only** factor. Stating as such in no way suggests it isnt about poverty, it only suggests it is about poverty **and** other things too.

Nuance, learn it, its important in life.

@Gamer@gameliberty.club @borzoi @burner19bb

@StroopWaffen I wouldnt make that claim. this is **your** logical framework. You claimed that more blacks = more violence and more whites = less violence, not me. I just happened to show that whether you beleived the data was what it really was or the exact opposite that in both cases you tried to weave an explanation that justified your conclusion either way. Showing you arent actually reasoning about your conclusion at all, you are trying desperately to cherry pick data to fit it (and failing).

@borzoi

Never said anything of the sort. I am only illustrating that he made a claim to a statistical fact and asserted that it proved blacks were intrinsically violent. I pointed out the actual statistics is the exact opposite of what he claimed, nothing more.

I also pointed out the fact that he drew the same conclusion from when he thought the statistics were the exact opposite of what they actually were means he isnt using the data to drive his conclusions but rather already made a conclusion and will try to insist the data fits it regardless of what that data actually says. Thus showing he isnt making objective conclusions based on the data in the first place, he already knew what conclusion he wanted to make and is trying to find data to fit it.

@StroopWaffen

@nugger

Made no claims as to any conspiracy. Nice try though

@matrix

@DrRyanSkelton

Saying a thing is disproven doesnt make it so. You wish to argue a counterpoint im happy to listen, but cut it with the rhetoric, it makes you look childish and ensures you cant possibly hold a meaningful conversation.

Happy to hear your views if you want to come at it with some maturity.

@matrix

@burner19bb

Hint: feel free to explain what i missed and how i misinterpreted what you said. I'd be more than happy to correct myself if i got you wrong.

@matrix @borzoi

@StroopWaffen As with most things, it isnt that simple. But you made an assertion, and that assertion is wrong. You claimed black people have the highest violence rate and yet the opposite is true, the country in africa with the largest number of **white** people has the highest murders and the country with the lowest portion of white people have the least murders. Literally you said a statistical observation where the opposite is true.

Now if you want to try to backpeddle and claim the opposite statistics still happen to make the same point for you that you thought they were making when it was reversed, go for it... but that tells me you arent working off the evidence at all, you already decided your conclusion and are instead trying to get the evidence to fit your answer.

@matrix The thing it **is** seen among other poor people, and the correlation is actually rather high unlike what you suggest. It is just that it is only one part of a problem that includes many factors (And yes fatherlessness may be one of them). Clearly there is more than just the fact that they are poor that contributes to the issue, but that i part of it.

@Jackuu

Welcome to mute for adding no value, thanks for playing.

@matrix @borzoi @burner19bb

@borzoi

Not the brightest bulb in the batch huh? I said nothing about wealthy people. Only that a poor black person and poor white person arent necessarily equally oppressed as there are additional factors that can oppress someone other than just economic.

@matrix @burner19bb

@StroopWaffen You do realize the African country with the highest homicide rate is also the african country with the highest percentage of white population right?

You really should actually look at the statistics before you make them up.

@borzoi

Wow, its almost like money alone isnt the only way a person can be oppressed... who wulda thunk.

@matrix @burner19bb

@GodBlessAdolfHitler

Welcome to the mute list for adding no value other than trolling.

Thanks for playing.

@burner19bb @StroopWaffen

@stevejail

Welcome to mute for racism.

Thanks for playing.

@burner19bb @StroopWaffen

@burner19bb

Actually it does. A poor white person has a statistically much higher chance of committing violent cromes than a white person who isnt poor.

@matrix

@verita84

Maybe, but no. There is a long history of white nations being savage and brutal towards black nations (often owning them) long before blacks even knew about whites and doing little to provoke them. Whites acted like savages against blacks for decades, cant try to flip the script now in the end game.

@matrix @ChristiJunior @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum

@StroopWaffen Most black countries were literally owned by white countries and abused for most of history until only very recently. In fact if you take a casual look at the GDP of various african nations you can easily spot a pattern where the nations that remained largely independent have a higher GDP than nations that were once ruled by white conquering nations and only later allowed to be free (after having much of their resources and culture stripped). This is hardly a coincidence.

Its really idiotic to describe Africans as primitive and aggressive when whites were the overwhelming majority of nations that abused tortured the black nations throughout history (yes it goes both ways but to a much lesser extent)... then having the gaull to say "see all these nations we used to own and treated cruelly, look how primitive they are, clearly black people have issues".