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@borzoi

1) Couldnt find any statistics showing what races are predominately the perpetrators in south africe.

2) You have devolved into behaving like a 6 year old so will now be muted more generally.

@matrix @Nike @DrRyanSkelton

@Tam @matrix @borzoi @DrRyanSkelton

Muting entire thread now, the people who add no value are outweighing the people who do.

Anyone ive been engaging with on the topic productively is welcome to continue where we left off if you wish, just tag me in a separate thread to continue, thanks.

@sapphire

Then i could be wrong on that point, link to the quote please for me to verify.

@borzoi

@borzoi

Been actively searching for 10 minutes now for a peer reviewed source for an answer. Cant find one so far. The only thing i found were statistics that showed the overwhelming perportion of the murder in south africa are committed by people who do not live full time in south africa and very little relatively is committed by the year-round farmers who live there. It didnt break it down by race however but this is suggestive that the violence is mostly committed by whites. That said I am still looking for more solid data.

@matrix @DrRyanSkelton

@sapphire

Lesotho is literally the ghettos white people threw all the black people they didnt want to kill off during aparthide out of the country they took over because they didnt want them around. It is a small area physically encompassed by south africa itself.

There are so many reasons this is a bad argument.

@borzoi

@bakubuddy

Wow you really are so desperate as to cherry pick long since debunked, disproved, and corrected work just to prove a nonexistant point. Sad. This is old news and when the work was redone and disproved has long been the laughing stock of the scientific community.

@matrix

@sapphire

I do not have you muted. Perhaps then I just wasnt seeing it for some other reason. That being the case I'd be happy to respond to it if you link to it.

South africa and Lesotho (which lies inside south africa) are the two countries in africa with the largest murder rate with Lesotho at 41 and south africa at 36 per 100K. In fact this is by a huge margin as the 3rd greatest murder rate goes to Central Africal Republic at only 19, a whopping 1/2 of Lesotho.

@borzoi

@bakubased

Yea white countries invaded and took over black countries unprovoked and tried their best to replace their culture with ours. That has lasting effects including language... your point?

@verita84 @matrix @ChristiJunior @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum

@borzoi

Actually no, I originally stated in my response other countries with no whites. Pointing out the countries that had the fewest white people had the least crime as well.

What i did do was imply it was a caustive correlation (that was the other guy). The causation is less direct. The countries with the highest count of whites are the countries that were at one point were owned by white countries. This historic fact is why they were poorer (stripped of resources and culture) and therefore have higher violence. The white percentage is actually secondary to that in my interpritation. But I never stated that, I was mostly pointing out the failure in Stroops assertion that more blacks means more violence, which apparently he finds a way to justify even when the statistics turn out to be the exact opposite of what he originally stated.

@StroopWaffen

@sapphire

No idea what your talking about, you are probably replying to a comment of someone I muted. I cant see it and therefore can not reply. Since I muted them I have no interested in engaging them.

@borzoi

@borzoi

Stroopwaffen is the one who brought up the idea that the density of white to black people in africa was a determinant for violent, not me. Since Im not the one who brought it up (I only pointed out the statistics he claimed were the exact opposite of what he said it is) perhaps im not the one you should be asking.

@StroopWaffen

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