🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@iankenway thank you

@trinsec @khird

@obi

On tthe one hand im more than happy to consider criticism and adapt to it if its founded... on the other i wont cave to a mob to appease them if I dont believe in it myself... in this case these words, I believe them, so I am ok with it.... but im willing to discuss further.

@trinsec @khird

@admitsWrongIfProven

Yea I am trying hard to find a wording that basically says "As long as your not being a racist/sexist asshat, your fine"... but there is no real perfect wording...

@trinsec @khird

@khird perhaps ther eis a better middle ground.. something that is inclusive of both sides but doesnt explicittly say so....

@Alaskanviking

I tweaked it to this:

While QOTO aims to provide a community where our users do not fear being punished for their personal opinions, that does not mean we allow people to disseminate ideologies that are abusive or violent towards others. Demonstrating support for or defending ideologies known to be violent or hateful is a bannable offense. This includes, but is not limited to: racial supremacy, anti-LGBTQ or anti-cis-gender/anti-straight, pro-genocide, child abuse or child pornography, etc. While we recognize questions and conversation regarding these topics are essential a STEM community, in general, doing so in bad faith will result in immediate expulsion.

@trinsec @khird

@Alaskanviking

The rest of the about does that, but ill throw itt in.

@trinsec @khird

@obi

I tend to agree witth you.. but as the game Darkest Dungeon:

Triumphant pride precipitates a dizzying fall :)

@trinsec @khird

@cody_is_typing He has his moments :)

@stux I appreciate these words :)

@khird ok no rush, would like your input ont he phrase im considering adding to our ToC if you hav ea minute befor eyou go.. id like to get it in quickly.

I am considering adding the following phrasing to QOTO's ToC.. Before I do I'd like some feedback from the community

> While QOTO aims to provide a community where our users do not fear being punished for their personal opinions, that does not mean we allow people to disseminate ideologies that are abusive or violent towards others. Demonstrating support for or defending ideologies known to be violent or hateful is a bannable offense. This includes, but is not limited to: racial supremacy, anti-LGBTQ or anti-cis-gender/anti-straight, pro-genocide, child abuse or child pornography, etc. While we allow questions and conversation regarding these topics in general, doing so in bad faith will result in immediate expulsion.

@trinsec @khird #QOTO

@bushgrad i dont think they listen enough to know...

@Coyote

freespeech means different things depending onn context. Only place it is well defined is legally. In general the USA is the top example used. You get freedom to exprress any opinion, but the manner and time in which you express it can and is limited.

@Romaq

@smartgeekette I appreciate this.

@icedquinn

New users arent what is causing my stress sadly, so it would do little to help.

@khird

@icedquinn

Im nnot sure that would fix the problem though

@khird

@khird that would be great... problem is we have to know who it actually is so we can report to the blacklists for review... ideall we need to find what database is listing us and why...

In the past we showed up here, which showed us the user at fault:

https://tria.ge/220106-dgc7asahg3

I cant find whatt database we are in now... this service didnt seem to help:

https://securityscan.getastra.com/security-audit?site=qoto.org

Perhaps you can use the above link and email tthem? I ttried but the national firewall here blocks them ironically enough.

@otso

Sadly I think you are right.... but im gonna try.

@khird @trinsec