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3am and working on the QWOTO servers backend... jesus christ it never ends

@peterdrake

I feel like if anyone were actually following our moderation efforts until now that has been proven countless times.. but it always falls on deaf ears.

@trinsec @khird @cstross

@Gaythia

yea i guess bad faith here isnt about intentions, its about saying you cant discuss it in a manner that demonstrates your trying to argue for its adoption.

@trinsec @khird @_foxaru

@RustyStriker Well we changed "Free Speech" to "academic Freedom" so im not sure thats needed anymore.

@obi

I appreciate your input, and generally would agree with you. But yea i think in this case it will simply be whats best fort everyone.

@trinsec @khird

@TheQueensMindset the worst that can happen is a server thats been up for over half a decade dies....

@obi

Thing is, this isnt a one off incident.. our wording has caused many problems and misunderstanding int he past.

@trinsec @khird

@TheQueensMindset All good advice.. though in my case unfortunately as an admin, i cantt distance myself from accusations against me and the server as easily as I'd like.. it has consequences.

@Pantangelini

I didnt say it was precedence... a supreme court judge cited it as an example of what would not be protected speech. But sinc eit wasnt challenged in court it is not, strictly speaking, precedence... that said, based on what precedence does existt, it is almost certain that it would be deemed non-protected speech should it ever reach court.

@Romaq

@_foxaru

personally I prefer your version actually... the only downside is it is much wordier, which may be a bad thing.... hmmm

@trinsec @khird

@Pantangelini

A supreme court judge explicitly stated that example as an example of illegal speech. As far as I know it has not explicitly been tested in court however.

@Romaq

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