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is this a private toot ? (still figuring the whole thing out me) 😅🙏🏻 

@freemo hey Some good news ! I’m seeing a lot of folks from my field joining qoto 😅👍🏻

discussion of violence, examples of bad things to say 

@admitsWrongIfProven

I think glorification of violence might basically just be calls to violence, which might be worth making against the rules.

@lucifargundam

is this a private toot ? (still figuring the whole thing out me) 😅🙏🏻 

@tonic Thats amazing... we havtually have some really good people here. In a weird way tthe Drama really means the people coming in are ones who have a good head on their shoulders IMO... they care about basic rights, but they arent going to harass people over it.. a ncie balance.

#parenting, violent threats 

@toplesstopics In relation to the rules topic i tooted your way, this toot inspired an idea: should there be a rule against glorifying violence or weapons?

Maybe, that would be too far, as it might be very hard to moderate. Maybe it's the right thing to do.

I added an issue here: gitlab.com/ufoi/constitution/-

Anyone who does not want to make a gitlab account can tell me to update with new thoughts, i will do so as long as it does not become too much work for one person.

@freemo

#parenting, violent threats 

@admitsWrongIfProven

My personal stance is to keep the rules limited as is reasonable. Keep in mind instances can make up their own additional rules for their instance still, so there is a lot of freedom for them to customize the rules beyond those enforced by the UFI.

That said I think its good you added an issue, it is worth discussing.

@toplesstopics

Don't read. 

@marathon0

No sorry to be clear I dont think you are an idiot... I think your stance is idiotic.. there is a difference... Smart people do ideotic things all the time.

It is ok to attack an idea, just not so much a person. I dont mind you as a person, I dont think your a moron.. but I do feel this is one of the dumber things you uttered. Hey no one is perfect.

@tonic

@tatzelbrumm as we make changes on git it will automatically compile it and publish the new pdf here:

ufoi.gitlab.io/constitution/un

you can also run gitlab-runner locally on the project to compile it locally

@tatzelbrumm oh, all those packages should be installed as part of you tex install.. but you may need to pick a pretty aggressive install package.. most platforms have something like texlive-full that has everything you need.

The server itself will compile the pdf for you when you submit a change by the way.

@tonic

For the record I read it and marathon's stance is idiotic to say the least...

That said I think its still prudent we all walk away since there is nothing more constructive to be had here.

@marathon0

@tonic

Sorry I will, second i have an eye ball free.

Just saying one of the central features of QOTO is respectful discourse or walking away... there are a lot of people out there with some pretty questionable views.. some might violate our ToS, others are just plain stupid (which I'd personally categorize as anything pro-russia). Even when someone is being an idiot the general advice is be polite or disengage.. if they continue when you disengage, report it.

My point is no matter who is wrong, I dont want to ever see QOTO members resorting to name calling, least of all with eachother... we are better than that. I say this without pointing blame in this conversation.

@marathon0

@toplesstopics

I totally understand the feeling of being the under dog and going in ready for a fight, I've been there in other context. No worries.

Yea full body pornographic photos are not on par with casual topless photos, thats for sure.

@admitsWrongIfProven

@mashiro no no, that will make it WAY worse over time... your better off just fixing it this time, then merging int he future...

@marathon0 @tonic

I havent read the thread yet.. but lets deescalate on both sides please.. namecalling isnt a good way to end a disagreement, whether your right or wrong... I am not refering or blaming either, I havent read.. i just see both of your last two replies were very antagonistic, it probably could have been done without it and best you both walked away.

@toplesstopics

Doing the best I can.. I always agreed with you anyway, it makes no sense a woman being topless is any worse than a man. So its not something you have to convince me of :)

@admitsWrongIfProven

@mashiro it can be hard maintaining a healthy history.. its more than just rebasing... you need to keep your commits tidy, small (elemental), and sometimes need to do some advanced things... also merges are better than rebase for this, rebase has its place but for long ter maintanence of a branch you want to do merges so you dont have to re-do the conflicts every time (which will just pile up), with merges you wont have to re-apply old conficts and get to focus just on the newer conflicts.

Has anyone checked if violance goes up shortly before an election? I would expect that to be the case.

@mashiro if the fork was done in a way that uses good Git practices then by dropping those features you might make your life harder than by keeping them to be honest.

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