🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@TruthSandwich

And seriously, if you dont even know subsonic 223 exists, which is the standard for CQC configurations, why are you making suggestions about law or configurations... Dont get me wrong please feel free to weigh in, but it seems you should be more humble and asking questions rather than dictacting and arguing about the evil ar-15.

@trinsec

@TruthSandwich

Sure, here is a link where you can buy 5 different options of .223 subsonic ammo. Which by the way for CQC I do recommend hollow point subsonic .223

https://beckammunition.com/ammunition/subsonic-ammo/223-subsonic

@trinsec

@TruthSandwich

The conversation about cops is mostly a tangent, so ill disengage on that part. But points noticed.

As pointed out in my other post (sources cited) even without a silencer a 9mm pistol is louder than a 223 rifle.

@trinsec

@dannotdaniel

Thinking its silly to want deaf people to be able to talk to other people rather than to have to resort to apps and cant just walk in and buy a burger without a whole ordeal... sorry no...

We could also just argue that everyone can just use the drive through and not need a mask to go in at all then if they want masks.

@luckytran

@TruthSandwich

I just checked... and a 9mm handgun is in fact **louder** than a .223 rifle like the AR-15

9mm pistol: 159.8 dB

.223 rem (std load in an 18.5" barrel, the loudest configuration): 155.5dB

So this brings us right back to the start... do you have any actual reason not to use an ar-15, so far you just gave reasons why its advantages arent as significant but not a valid disadvantage.

Just the fact that they cause less ear damage sounds like a good reason.

Source: https://earinc.com/gunfire-noise-level-reference-chart/

@trinsec

@TruthSandwich

> No, cops are not very well trained when it comes to guns. It turns out that shooting is just a small part of their job and they don't spend much time getting good at it, much less staying good at it.

This is a blanket statement and the reality depends on where you are.

In philly they have routine firearms training with objective testing. They have minimum standards they must meet when it comes to hitting the target, distance, timing, and tons of other things. Yes their training here isnt bad at all.

Obviously other jurisdictions may have little or no training.

> They're also pretty damned bad at hand-to-hand, for what it's worth. Civilian enthusiasts generally beat out cops in both categories.

This I have no knowledge on so cant say how PA/Philly compares.

> Even worse, cops have no control over how their weapons are configured. That's why (until very recently and then only in limited areas) they run iron sights instead of dots.

This I know to be true in almost all jurisdictions as I've done a lot of research on various firearm options across different PDs... again it depends. Many jurisdictions usually let the cop select from a list of approved guns, and they can customize it as they wish and even pick their own holster under certain guidlines (there are what are called retention levels and police usually have a specific level their department requires of them).

> At this range and on the move, bracing is irrelevant. You're going to be point shooting, not pausing to acquire four points of contact. And you're going to struggle to keep the dot visible, so losing your irons will be crippling.

I take it you have never done competition shooting (which replicates a real world encounter as best you can)... Yes bracing and aquiring target is quite critical and you are trained to do it quickly.

> You haven't thought this through. But, to be fair, it hardly matters. You'll be deafened and in pain after the first shot, and everything that follows will be a flinch-a-thon.

This is a 5.56, we arent talking a lapua here.. Democrats, usually ones with little real world gun experience, often assume the AR-15 is some super powerful gun. They dont realize we are talking one of the weaker rounds available. Will your ears ring, absolutely yes... will it be manageable in a fight, also yes. I have forgot my ear protection a few times where I shot accidentally... it certainly did nothing so bad as to make it impossible to shoot... not healthy for your ears sure, but no trouble shooting it.

That said ear protection is a valid point... so so far your only actual objection is that it will hurt my ears.. so you are arguing I should use a less- safe fire arm because it will hurt my ears less.. all thanks to democrats making it harder to buy surpressors and forcing many people onto a less-safe fire arm int he first place... that said, it seems like your arguing I should spend the huge cost on getting a surpressor and use it to replace the muzzle... in that sense its a good idea and I'd agree.

@trinsec

@jeffcliff @luckytran

> No it isn't. We are going to end it, and we'll end people like you too if you interfere.

Ahh so you will be violent AND will still have a massive COVID problem in the end too... have fun with that

> blah blah blah...

At this point you have no value left to talk to so I wont read futher. Once you threaten to kill me for not listening to your anti-science nonsense you have lost any credibility and I wont engage further.

@mike805 @jeffcliff @luckytran

#1 we have basically seen happening.. Thats not COVID ending thats just COVID not mattering as much so people stop caring. Thankfully COVID is already less lethal than earlier strains though.

#2 very unlikely given the nature of this particular disease. After multiple generations maybe, but not soon.

I have had COVID 7 verified times myself so far.

@jeffcliff @luckytran

> It does matter. It matters that we can't seem to get covid under control.

Depends what you mean by "under control"... COVID is probably at the levels it will be at for the rest of our lives... The nature of the disease and its vaccines means this is probably where we are going to be stuck at in terms of levels in the population. If everyone masks up again and gets indoors you might see a temporary drop, but it will go right back to baseline in the end.

So its time to just put time and money into better vaccine research and better medical support for the sick... forcing everyone into low-level hazmat for the rest of their lives isnt a solution.

> If they are used properly it *does* reduce community spread of covid.

This is fairly likely to be true, I would agree. The problem is that it is **not** used properly and humans are not receptive enough to education for that to be likely to change in numbers great enough for masks to start doing more good than harm... so its a fairly moot point

> Sure. We can deal with that AFTER COVID IS OVER

There is no COVID being over... short of some drastic leap in medical technology that is likely not to happen for at least a generation, COVID will never be over. The nature of the virus in terms of both resevoirs and asymptomatic carriers virtually garuntees you wont eliminate COVID no matter what you do.

> Not even close. The continuation of an AIRBORN disease killing millions of people and maiming upwards of a billion people is VERY tilted towards whatever will end it.

Moot point, the disease is continuing no matter what you do.. the idea that masks will end COVID completely is nonsensical, it isnt an option.

> This is like complaining that a firefighter's mask is blocking the
ability of deaf people to lipread [which it does] wile they are trying to put out a housefire.

No its not... The firefirghters would be like the medical professionals. They are trained on how to wear masks and in that case the masks are absolutely doing more good than harm.. They should wear it. The fire can never be put out, but when they fight it they should wear it to protect themselves and others... the general population, not so much.

@dannotdaniel @luckytran

The deaf generally rely a great deal on lip reading, at an in and out burger with high volumn probably most of all.

@ech

I would not ban them in a store if a customer wants to use it.. but as a policy for employees in a customer service setting... well in that setting it makes perfect sense, especially if you want accessibility for the deaf.

@jeffcliff @barney

@TruthSandwich

How does none of this apply? Being accurate is just as important in close quarters as elsewhere... more so due to the risk of collatoral damage... Why would you argue for a less accurate more dangerous weapon just because someone is closer, what is that gaining you?

And I take it you never shot? missing man sized targets at 10 meters is **very** common, particularly under high stress scenarios. When i go to the range if i take the time to aim and and slow and focused I can hit a bullseye at 10 meters no problem... With someone else shooting at me with adrenalin rushing and a slit second to shoot, there is a **very** high chance I will miss a few even at 10 meters (even cops miss under those conditions and they are very well trained)... Now with an AR im much less likely to miss in that scenario.

But again im confused why you feel a less accurate weapon is somehow in my favor just because its closer? What would i be gaining by using it?

@trinsec

@TruthSandwich @trinsec

Good question. The short answer is.. because this is safer than a pistol and will mean fewer people die.

A pistol by its very nature is much less accurate. Even at 10 yards its not hard to miss your target and shoot a bullet into the wall that might kill the old lady next to you.

Hollow-point 0.223 in a ar-15 is going to have a longer barrel and better sight along with a shoulder-rest which makes it far more stable. This means you are far more likely to hit your target and not kill an innocent bystander. With hollow tips penetration damage is negated too.

Of course if pistols were allowed shoulder-rests they could be at least a bit safer.. but of course democrats already made that impossible which over the years has pushed people to AR-15 platforms for close quarters for the added safety.

They make 9mm AR-15 platofrms by the way, that wouldnt be a bad choice either.

@jeffcliff @luckytran

> 1) It's not about 'reducing the spread of germs' it's about 'reducing the spread of COVID specifically'. Which we need to do more of, not less.

What its "about" doesnt mean squat.. what it "is" is all that matters.

Presuming it does good in preventing the spread of COVID, which is doubtful specifically considering their misuse, doesnt change the fact that it can and does spread other diseases when misused. That harm may (and I beleive does) outweigh the benefits.

> 2) Masks are not 'excessive' - what's 'excessive' is people being exposed to other people for long periods of time during a pandemic.

Thats where we simply disagree, given the fairly low effectiveness and even potential harm from mask wearing it doesnt justify the discomfort and potential harm both in spreading other diseases and in terms of harm to the deaf community. It would be like walking around in full hazmat gear.. yea maybe it helps, but it is absurd and not neccesary, its just excessive.

@admitsWrongIfProven @luckytran

> If masks are harmful when used the wrong way (all-day without changing), then better education seems to be the rational choice, while some burger joint forbidding masks won't do real good.

If there is a need for masks that outweighs the harm to the deaf community, then I agree, education is better than banning.

> Furthermore, being in support claiming to be for the deaf community while ignoring that this will hurt those that need the protection from masks (which will either be pressured to not get a doctors note or have trouble getting one, possibly to monetary trobles) concerns me.

Time and time again the official stance is that masks help everyone else and protects them from the wearer, not the other way around. So any argument for masks wrt to at-risk people would require everyone wearing one. That is even greater harm to the deaf community and even more excessive a request. So the policy of not having its employees wear masks makes sense. If you are an at-risk employee you'd need a full respirator to protect yourself at which point im not even sure you could be heard clearly enough to do your job.

> It seems like you dislike everyday mask use, perhaps that could be an ulterior motive?

Yes, and I stated my ulterior motives:

1) if not used properly it tends to cause more harm than good, and despite education efforts no one seems to use them properly.

2) It is immensly harmful to the deaf community.

Given its excessive nature combined with its potential to harm I dont feel the rewards outweigh the harm. That is my ulterior motive.

@trinsec For now, yes, i might buy a 3x flip away magnifier and i may add light weight irons at a 45 degree... but im trying to keep it as light as possible... I also might switch out the picatinny rails in the front for a lighter polymer grip.

I reconfigured my AR-15 for CQC (Close Quarters Combat). I stripped everything off it that adds any weight, including iron sights, and moved to a Sig Sauer MSR red dot reflex.

#Gun #Guns #2A

@gay_yiff Hey just saw your timeline...

So I dont mind posting NSFW content specifically cause it is CW'ed, so that doesnt appear to be a violation.

What worries me is it appears your content is **exclusively** that. We are a STEM instance so there is a requirement people are at least here partly because they want to post about STEM, or socialize with STEM people. That doesnt seem to be the case with your account and I wonder if it wouldnt better be suited on a different instance.

@trinsec @khird

@marcelias Actually I think they have been quite clear on what they meant by this as they have been very consistent in what they ask for.. you may not agree, and thats fine, but we know the ask...

They want all votes to be verified with a proper government issued photo ID in person. So no mail-in votes, and all states must require photo ID verified at the booths.

I personally dont like it because it breaks state sovereignty.. so I am against it. But I wont pretend I dont understand what they mean...

LAWL now this moron things I am lying about my profession.... never mind the fact that the lab I run has me prominently displayed ont heir website and we link to source for the stuff we published...

Amazing how the extreme alt-left sorts just make up things completely detached from reality the second they hear something that adds nuance to their talking points.

What, a, fucking, moron....

@barney