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@bii Thanks for sharing your perspective. I probably wont get to read it till tomorrow.

@jeffowski Oh she actually started up production and paid people to come in. You are right I didnt know that, I thought they didnt start production quite that quickly. I'll have to verify that production was live and that info is accurate, but if it is then I agree, she did, in fact, cross the line. While I dont support the strike personally I would agree with you that if you do support the strike then he is now a SCAB and is worth that criticism then. I rescind my original comment on the condition that the new information you provided is accurate then.

@malakai Then we would be a perfect fit for you. We would love to not have you! :)

@falken

I've been working on it (and even offering to pay a developer to do it in the future to make it faster).

Keep in mind though our version has no relationship to mastodon, we are a fork and indepependent.

@stefano @MastodonEngineering

@TruthSandwich

What sentance or phrase did you struggle understanding. Id be more than happy to explain in a way that you will better understand.

@unabomber

@jeffowski

> She was advised from her own writers on her show that this was crossing the picket line.

She certainly was advised that. And ultimately didnt do it. Therefore while starting the show would have been crossing the picket line, as advised, she did not follow through and never crossed it (despite her almost having done so).

> She only changed course because of the very public backlash.

Who cares, she didnt actually cross it... in fact she went one step further and didnt only not cross, but admited she was wrong... I am proud she had the courage to admit she is wrong, that takes a lot of character (regardless of the motivation).

@jeffowski

What a disgrace, we wont even let people admit their wrong and apologize anymore :( Dont get me wrong, nothing wrong with criticizing her decision... but to still lay it on thick after they decided to not even go through it and actively admitting they were wrong... yea thats not the right way to respond.

@thor ahh so tinder not OKC.. i know i said i havent used dating apps in a while but i kinda lied.. i actually met my GF a year ago off tinder.... That said the reason i forgot is it wasnt entierly intentional. I just idly had it on my phone and wasnt really serious about it. But when I landed int he country she was inmy phone exploded with a ton of likes (probably due to the unique nature of the country).. Anyway it got my attention and i met her off tinder.

@Gina So what im hearing is anyone who has ever rolled dice is insane :)

@thor Ahh I see.

It has been a very very long time since i used any of those sites (not cause of my GF thats only the last year, i just got sick of the low quality results)...

That said I remember on OKC that live chats were very ineffectual. Id have to send off a **lot** of messages to get responses.. maybe like one out of 30, and most of those didnt last more than one or twho exchanges... one in 50 might be a long term exchange

But the slower messages I seem to recall having more responses. I think this is more true for men cause the slower longer messages show more effort and the chats feel "lazy" as if a guy is just casting a wide net.

I can also say no matter what the medium if allyou do in response to a life is say "hi" or "hi, how are you" you will not get many responses at all.. If you lead with something interested you get way more. I have literally had women ont he service tell me multiple times they dont reply to just "hi" and only respond to people who make an effort in their first message.

@thor when you say they didnt reply to chat... do you mean like regular messages.. or like live chat (I know OKC and stuff like that have two ways to message, live and slow like email but on their site)?

@strawd I think we would agree exploitation in porn is morally wrong, porn itself is not.

As a general rule only time I'd say its morally questionable is if 1) you spend money on it and 2) you know the porn you bought involved exploitation when you bought it.

@TruthSandwich

Can you please tell me which bills Trump has proposed or supported that explicitly attempt to enact segregation? I cant think of one... In fact I cant think of any segregation or racist thing that even approaches Biden in that regard.

That said What Trump has or hasnt done in terms of racist has absolutely nothing to do with if Biden is or isnt racist.

@unabomber

@TruthSandwich

> He is a Republican candidate, but he's running as a Democrat with the goal of hurting Biden.

I think everyone is aware of that except RFK himself... pretty sure he thinks his big is legit.. but yea we all know its notand he is a joke.

> At this time, we don't know whether he'll be running in the general after he loses the primaries.

I suspect he would...

Odd thing is, he has polled better in some polls than biden by a large margin (in other polls he has done worse). I highly doubt he will win, but just his name alone is enough for most democrats in polls to say they support him. I suspect that will only last until he becomes popular enough to actual get news time, at which point his support will drop to near 0.

> But we can be sure he'll be claiming that his loss was "rigged" because he's trying to crush our confidence in democracy and suppress votes on the left.

Maybe, I doubt he is intentionally trying to support the republicans. So i have my doubts that is his play... that said he is such a pro-conspiracy theory guy he might play exactly that card even thought he didnt intend to support the republicans.

> Wait for the toots that say, "I would have voted for Biden, even though I hate him for being a liberal, but the evil DNC rigged the primaries against true-progressive RFK Jr., and now I'm going to vote for Trump to punish Biden."

If they were going to pull that card they could have picked a much better pawn.

@TruthSandwich Oh he doesnt stand a chance in hell of winning, he is a complete lunatic. As for him helping Trump... quite the opposite. He has far more support fromt he right, if anything he will take away swing votes that might have voted for trump. In fact, he feels like he should be a republican ticket, his stance reads very republican.

@voidabyss

> The is a category of self-harm that might not be due to underlying suffering or mental illness, which is Self-sacrifice, it involves enduring hardship and putting the needs and welfare of others before one’s own, like voluntary soldiers, doctors, ems, nurses, etc. Self-sacrifice is often motivated by compassion, love, and a sense of duty towards others.

Sure that exists too... but are you saying those are the only two?

What about things that harm ones self, but is not due to any underlying unhealthy mental state, and also doesnt benefit anyone else.

A tattoo or scarification is an example I would think you would agree with. I would hope you agree that these are not (usually) due to mental illness, they also dont benefit others, and do in fact cause harm to ones self. So how do we handle that in your model? Its clearly self-harm, but in your model its an exception somehow? why?

@freemo @Bradcopter @georgetakei I understand where you stand, we both have our lines defined by our lives and lines of work, and even if we agree to disagre, I wanted thank you for this very interesting debate. 🙂

@Foxmonsieur

> You're right we're splitting hair there (but it's very interesting).

Yea might not have been the most relevant, but it was an interesting tangent.

> People can form an opinion and they can see this situation from one side or another and debate about it, it's their right. But when it comes to the case, what she's done should be considered in context and on a human scale too.

Sure Id agree with that.

> I may be partial as a (foreign) writer, but on the human side I think she should be at least held in contempt of unions for her disrespect for her peers.

I think it is fair to say that her actions showed that supporting the strike was not something she felt particularly compelled to do. But as you say the human side should be considered here, and I think people not only need to be cut some slack for bad choices they correct away from, but its also REALLY hard for most humans to admit they were wrong and change their mind as a response to public opinion too.. Personally I applaud her for being able to say she was wrong at all (even though i may not think she was all that wrong)

@Bradcopter @georgetakei

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