🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

This Neil Patrick Asshole thinks he can gaslight us into thinking he is Ryan Reynolds.... We arent buying it Neil, we know its you!

@lowqualityfacts

@lowqualityfacts Is this recent? it is still ongoing? What was this in response to? I imagine it is completely absurd whatever it was.

@louisrcouture less of a backtrack, more of a small tweak :)

@sdgathman

This gets into a bit of muddy water.. I agree with what you are trying to say, and thats the important part... but when it comes to science and the concept of falsifiability im not sure its the best.

When i think of most conspiracy theories all of them are falsifiable in general but not falsifiable by you (or any random member of the public for that matter).

Take the moon landing as an example. People claim it never happened... Well I cant personally prove it directly either way. To truly prove it youd either need inside access to NASA or you'd need the money to go to the moon and check... So while I myself cant verify it, in general it can be verified.

@futurebird

@voidabyss Ok so i think i may understand your rule system now, let me recap and you can tell me if its accurate:

> What determine self-harm is the net negative outcome on the individual and society unless it’s self-sacrifice.
>
> The rule here is if it bad for the individual, it’s bad for society unless self-sacrifice.

Ok so self-harm, when a sacrafice for others, is morally ok.

self-harm that is not a sacrafice for others is always wrong.

Does mental illness and distress form a requirement here at all, or is that just an explanation, that self harm will always coincide with mental health issues and it isnt the mental health issues that make it immoral but rather they are a symptom that is always linked to self harm?

> Self-sacrifice might be perceived as bad for the individual but it’s a net positive for society.

This part I get and am fine with.

Assuming my above interpritation is correct im still a bit confused. You said tattoos and scarification was **not** considered immoral. Yet it does objectively produce self harm (however small) some it still appears to be at odds with your wsystem since you said it is moral yet your "rules" would suggest it isnt.

Am I mixing something up?

@futurebird The scary thing is these people not only think its true, they think there are tons of facts to back it up, we are just "sheep" for not seeing it.

Interesting thing I just learned. While in the USA the landlord is considered a bad guy in Japan its quite the opposite. It is customary for renters to give ~1000$ tot he landord for free to thank them for renting you the house. You dont get that back.

@voidabyss I think you meant this as a reply to our thread?

@tripu Good question.

If i had to speculate I think it has a lot to do with some unspoken subconscious stuff... my thinking goes like this.

While rape and pedophilia is deplorable, it is still sexual in nature. This has the potential to arouse and imagery associated with arousal is likely far more likely to be appealing to a person and perhaps tempt them to do the bad deed than simply watching someone kill, which in and of itself isnt something that, by watching it, is likely to have any element of pleasure and thus likely wont do as good a job at enticing someone to carry it out.

@TruthSandwich QED

@TruthSandwich

Oh no, they are hugely different. About the only thing they have in common is that anyone who points out facts that make their side look then they are equivalent to the other side.. well that and they are both evil. Minor shit really.

@georgetakei Wow, we got to book burning level already..... that escalated quicker than I expected. I figured I still had a year or two till we got to the book burning stage of fascism.

@falken

Did you file a bug on our issues if there isnt one for any issue you are having? I am using that as my reference as im working on this stuff.

@stefano @MastodonEngineering

@voidabyss

> As I mentioned before, it’s not only mental illness, It might be an emotional distress, underlying suffering or a coping mechanism, etc.

Sure yea I can go with that.. im just trying to understand.

Are you suggesting that all people who get tattoos have some underlying emotional distress or suffering, and therefore is self harm? Or are you saying that they dont, and it is only self harm if it harms the self and is out of mental illness or distress. Harming ones self not out of mental illness or distress is not self-harm? or it is?

> The result is a net negative for the individual and society.

Did you really mean "and" here, or did you maybe mean "or"?

A tattoo causes a net negative for the individual but it iis **very** small. There is some risk of infection or complications, as well as damage to the skin. So the net harm for the individual while small is non-zero.

So if the criteria here is an "or", then tattoo would qualify as self-harm no? Or perhaps you really did mean and, in which case we would agree by those criteria it is not self harm as only one of the two conditions is met.

That said if you did mean and, that would mean self harm that doesnt effect society, even out of mental illness by these criteria is perfectly ok. This would suggest that if someone is disliked by more people than they are liked they can commit suicide and that is perfectly ok because it harms the self but not society.

@BigMcLargeHuge

QED that is exactly the response I expected... Trump is a moron, and couldnt lie his way out of a wet paper bag... He will **always** look worse than anyone. Because we respond far more strongly to obvious harmful loud obnoxious stuff than we do the subtle feigned read between the lines stuff, even whent he latter is much worse than the former the overwhelming majority of people will never recognize that.. hell most will probably be fooled by Biden, even with his lies being fairly transparent, especially next to someone like Trump with verbal diarrhea.

@unabomber

@malakai

Hahaha :)

@BigMcLargeHuge

Hahaha, facts.. I think he might be one of the few people on Trumps intellectual level :)

@TruthSandwich

@BigMcLargeHuge

If it came to those two racist nubs then I'd expect Biden to win... not because he is the better choice, in fact he is at least as bad as Trump, maybe worse, hard to say for me but yea im leaning towards biden being the worse (marginally) right now (it only flipped a week or two ago). But while Biden is the bigger racist he is also the better liar, so most people I think would be easily conned by Biden exploiting minorities to look like an ally, so id expect they would not see his racism despite being far worse than Trumps.

@unabomber

@jeffowski

Wow thats weird... what were they scared a striker would do? like was was the thinking there?