🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@admin Sadly no, I dont have a paddle right now.

@B_Whitewind They wobble... most disappear, some come back... Most seem to come for periods then disappear in a few cycles before sticking.

@admin Nice, gonna hop on. wanna try a qso?

@Darkayne While the two party system isnt helping , and yea partly the cause I think people becoming polarized is such a deep rooted issue at this point im not sure if we will ever truely see sanity

@realcaseyrollins

I think you are confusing specific examples of facism vs facism as a concept (which can take any form)... The definition of facism is:

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

@louisrcouture

@realcaseyrollins I mean thats fine.. but he also won both the super delegates and the party election...

If we agree he and much of what he says is racist then its hard to deny the democratic party, having supported him, isnt racist.

I do agree with you Biden is far more racist than your average member. But the average member wills till violently object to calling him racist... which suggests to me they condone what he has said and done

@realcaseyrollins

Why is it only authoritarian if it comes from corperations? So if you have a communistic society where no corperations exist, all just the government.. communism cant be authoritative? That doesnt track.

@louisrcouture

@realcaseyrollins

Depends on the definition of the word.. im using racism based on the threshold most on the left use it, which is much lower than someone on the right like you

For example "If you dont vote for me you ain't black"... He probably didnt think that statement had any hate behind it in his mind.. but I'd still consider that racist.

@louisrcouture

Not to mention both the parties int he USA support hte idea than prison should be a punishment.. So we put people away for decades with hte intent of them suffering in prison... So yes both sides are very fascist as this is the norm consequence for every law.

Other countries (not all) prison is seen as rehabilitation. Those countries are far less fascist.

@louisrcouture

> so rules are facist?

No, In my earlier post I explained exactly what sort of rule is fascist and what isnt... I made this clear and I know your a smart guy, but that means you just applied reductivism in bad faith in an attempt to argue in an intellectually dishonest way... Dont do that, you are better than that.

Rules that are

1) Having lots of them is more authoritative than trying to have the bare minimum needed... Having rules isnt authoritative, but when you feel you need to make rules for **everything** then it is more authoritative than a party which tries to find social solutions

2) When those rules carry with them harsh penalties they become more authoritative also.. Both the democrats and republicans right now support the death penalty for example. So both are very much authoritative in the severity they are willing to attach to their rules as well.

> Is it facism if the state won't let me sell alcoholic drinks made with orange juice and rubber alcohol?

That would be more authoritative (and thus more fascist) than a government that had no rule around that.

That said I never claimed all authoritative rules, are wrong.. There is a reasonable level of authoritarianism which is acceptable, and there is a qty that isnt. Where botht he democrats and republicans are the level of authoratarianism they exhibit is unacceptable.

@louisrcouture To be care... I should say "Personal freedom of Americans"... they dont care about personal freedoms of anyone else of course.

@louisrcouture

Literally almost everytthing they do... They are "big government" (controlling people with lots of rules that carry with it violent threats).. as opposed to small government (minimizing how often they make rules or exert control).

The only difference is the left is fascist-left, they make laws that force you to sacrafice your own individual freedoms for the greater good, or get a gun pointed at you and jail time. The right is fascist-right, they too make laws that force by threat of violence as the norm.. but in their case their laws simply focus on personal freedom even if it is at the expense of the collective good..

Authoritarianism doesn't seem too much different between the two... which is at the heart of fascism.

@louisrcouture Of course its not, I never claimed it was. Nor did I even suggest it was...

Authoritativism is a measure of government that has nothing to do with "things you dont like"... it has to do with how much the policies rely on force, and violence vs how much the policies try effect cultural change or other "softer" approaches.

A law that chops off your hands when you still is **very** authoritative... a law that puts you in jail for a long time is fairly authoritative too... if instead the government tries to reduce crime via investing in better mental health access, paid for by taxes, thats still a bit authoritative but far far less so... the same programs however paid for by donations wouldnt be authoritative at all.

Authoritativeism has nothing to do with what you like and everything to do with how much force a government assumes in its policies.

@louisrcouture That has been overwhelmingly not my expiernce.. In face while both are overwhelmingly fascist I've foudn when it comes to the authoritative aspect of it (which is the most important IMO) the democrats are in fact a bit worse than the right.

@xvilo So like half a day downtime per month?

@freepeoplesfreepress

> Dear Dr. Freemo: True liberals within the Democrat Party believe in inclusiveness, yes there are racists in the Democrat Party

Applying the "No true scotsman" fallacy to claim a small minority of democrats are "true democrats" and that this small minority truely represents the whole, and not the majority... that wont get far with me.

> Republican Party now finds itself controlled by the GOP MAGA Republicans who allegedly seem to be Ultra Radical Right Wing Extremists who are affiliated with Donald J. Trump. Republican Party’s internal political apparatus seems to be controlled by far right fascist political elements.

Yes thats true.. Though aside from flipping a few words almost the same phrasing works for democrats in aggregate:

The Democratic Party now finds itself controlled by the DNC's "Always Blue" Democrats who allegedly seem to be Ultra Radical Left Wing Extremists who are affiliated with Joe Biden Democratic PArty's internal politicial apparatus seems to be controlled by far left fascist political elements.

> The chief difference between Democrats and Republicans is that the Democrats promote social and economic inclusiveness, whereas the Republicans want to prohibit minority groups such as women and other racial groups from directly being able to participating in the American Dream.

Thats certainly a rosy spin on what they are actually doing... Democrats want to take away individual freeds for what they claim is the greater good (gun restrictions, vaccine mandates, etc are all very clear examples of that. Republicans on the other hand care about individual freedoms and rights first and the collective interests are happily abused in persuit of that goal.

> Republicans want to enslave minority groups

Yup, just like the democrats.. The difference is the republicans cause them to be enslaved because they wont support healthcare (which violates personal freedom by forcing someone with more money to pay for someone with less).. The democrat wants them enslaved by forcing them to give up their personal freedoms and means of protection (giving up their guns being one such example) and taking welfare from the govt to make sure they are enslaved , disemplowered, and dependent on them.

@TruthSandwich