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@dashrandom

> what if beating kids prevents them from doing things that will cause them even greater harm in future?

What if unicorns shat rainbows? It doesnt, so the what if regarding something that isnt true doesnt mean much.

> As far as I know, most parents don't beat their kids out of anger but rather to discipline them.

Thats just a lie they tell themselves so they can justify their beatings. And even if it were true it wouldnt make the beatings any less abhorrent.

When parents beat their kids "out of disciplin" what they are really saying is they beating them out of frustration and anger that their kids arent listening, nothing more. They just need to pretend they are doing it for altrusitic reasons. Even most murderers need to find an excuse for what they do and usually find a way to excuse it as a greater good... it isnt.

> If that discipline prevents even greater self destructive behaviour in future

It doesnt, quite the opposite, it creates adults with deep rooted psychological issues who are likely to have all sorts of functioning problems. Worse yet since they are never taught to cope with their issues they likely lack the skills to even address their now underlying issues, or even the self awareness to recognizet he problem. They likely just go on to beat their own children and continue the cycle.

> is it not justified?

Since that doesnt happen this is a moot question.

> Keep in mind that it takes time for children to understand concepts of right and wrong or "this could kill/hurt me or others".

No it doesnt... by the time a kid is able to learn from a beating they are able to reason. Regardless even if this isnt true there are plenty of punishments that dont require you to beat your child.

@dashrandom

Nah, thats just an excuse we tell ourselves.

While one action may be right or wrong given the nuance of the situation for sure, it is not a cultural thing.. What is wrong is that which causes harm and suffering, that is an objective measure even if that suffering may have to some degree cultural components.

For example torturing someone for pleasure is **always** objectively wrong, culture accepting that wont change it, it just make you more naive to doing wrong. No cultural perspectives can change the fact that act is one that causes net suffering.

Same goes back to beating little kids. No amount of cultural acceptance removes the suffering and harm inflicted and thus is objectively and universally wrong regardless of culture.

@daviding

I both love and hate the typography of this page...

@timoreilly

@Savvyhomestead

Except in winter when there wasnt much a person could do your average peasant had like 112+ hours work week... Trust me you are way better off now.

@LouisIngenthron To be clear political polls generally arent conducted through cold calling. But there is a legitimate problem in any survey in science where we expect it to be biased by peoples willigness to take the poll. It is one reason data scientists treat polls more critically than many other forms of data.

@realcaseyrollins

Re,e,ber how you were doubting those "inflated" death tolls because they came from Hamas? Well the official Israeli death toll they themselves are reporting is **higher** than those reports out of Palestine.

Me: All I want is an AI that looks after me, reads my emails for me and tells me which ones I should care about.

Google: Oh we got you

Me: No, not like that.

@WoodSharpening

And nto be fair while i was harsh and direct, I was also kind about it... I think basically she was furious she just beat her kids in public at a resteraunt and how several people called her out in public, she felt awful.

I responded with something fairly straight forward but respectful like 'Yea, I would have called out someone doing that too. Hitting your child is never acceptable and I am glad people didnt just accept a child being abused and say nothing" and I know I said "I would have done the same if I saw a small child being hit in public, for any reason"

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist

@wjmaggos So basically a voice conference over matrix as a segment in a audio only podcast.. nice!

Man i just had a coughi g fit that was sure if it was sneezing or coughing.... that was really weird.

@pgcommunication ive never not been able to get stamps. That said i very rarely use usps. I pretty much limit it to light small letters of a page or two. Anything else i use ups.

@hans thanks. Right now its jusy a passing idea

@mxtthxw The point is to talk but not neccesserily the focus. Like you could come and speak if you have somethi g to say. No penalty for not saying anything

@shibaprasad Not yet. I was thinking of hot button topics. Whatever has people talking at the time.

@hans Me too. But people can get booted if they troll.