🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@mathias

Its not any one place, I've been all around the world and had health insurance in several different countries, Italy, the Netherlands, Germany, Canada, you name it.

The problems are manifold, there are the obvious things that dont need much proving like effects it has on privacy that is inherent to a centralized system. In canada for example your complete medication history is in a central database which makes it impossible to keep your medical history truly private and secure, particularly if you take meds that are either controlled substances (like for ADHD) or for things like schizofrenia.

But the more damning stuff is the stuff that requires a real analysis of the data to see.I think the prime example, and one that is very obvious in the data but also something I personally expiernced is the delays you see in time to get care which are horrendous throughout the whole of europe.

The Netherlands has some of the shortest wait times of any country in europe and you are still talking on the order of months on average, even for debilitating conditions where immediate care is critical to patient health, the USA (particularly before ObamaCare, but even after) is a fraction of that time on average. This is also what effected me personally when i had a spinal cord injury while living in the Netherlands. I had a non-surgical solution that was working quite well for me that was essentially a 5 minute procedure about one a month where they inject steroids into my spine. But because they can only schedulet he procedure once the pain starts coming back, and because the procedure took about 2 months in advance to schedule (despite taking all of 5 minutes to do) it means I'd be 1 month where I was perfectly fine and 2 months where i was crippled and in agonizing pain. So I was forced to get a surgical procedure that was far riskier that I didnt really need simply because the system was too broken to give me my treatment on time and in a timely fashion.

@lfrffs @ew @louiscouture

Oh just realized another autoantonym (my favorite category of words)... Sanction: it can mean both to "approve/authorize" or to "discipling/penalize"

#english #writing

@Faket no

@Faket it is slightly varied from the one I took it looks like.

@Faket the "left values" one looks like an interesting new twist!

@mur2501 Nah, people thing that because I give liberals shit for how they act... thing is in terms of policy and principles I agree with the liberal stance a bit more than the conservative stance. I just happen to despise the way the liberals **behave** (exaggerations, lieing, manipulating , arguing complete fantasies).

The spectrum doesnt account for how much you like the people on one side or the other, it only measures your values.

@realcaseyrollins About where I'd expect you, maybe a smidge more right but not much.

@djsumdog

Didnt find the video (only spent about 2 minutes looking thought before work).. but here you can hear them talk about the leak in some detail and reference the video i mentioned in detail:

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-fabricated-water-main-break-affect-vote-counting-georgia-trump-says-1558876

@louiscouture

@lfrffs

keep in mind co-ops are neither privatized or public, not in the typical sense... they are customer owned entities, so the people being insured by any particular co-op are the owners of that co-op. So you get supply demand pressures but eliminate the greed aspect

@louiscouture @ew

@herag i took these a year ago, i dont recall the specific test

@lfrffs

if you have a public option that means people are forced to pay for it if they use it or not, so no, there should not be a public option of any kind.. there **should** be welfare that provides the welfare recpients with a budget they can use to buy the health insurance of their choosing to ensure those who cant afford it can still get health insurance. But no public health insurane is a utter failure by its very nature and should not be an option. If i dont want to use the public option istill have to pay taxes on it, so your basically telling people "you have to buy our insurance, but your free to not use it", that doesnt work.

@louiscouture @ew

@lfrffs

As someone who lived in the USA, as well as many other countries with public health care, as well as a data scientist who spent a lot of time researching it I can say pretty confidently that the last thing you should want is public health care.. not that what we have is ideal either, it needs to be fixed too, but the healthcare they have in canada and europe is pretty horrific and not really a step forward

The thing is, once you create a state run monopoly and eliminate choice and flexibility, quality goes down as there is no market pressure. healthcare doesnt work as a completely public system, but it also doesnt work as a completely free market privatized system either.. IMO the solutions for healthcare lie in co-op healthcare.

@louiscouture @ew

@lfrffs

Depends on the service. Some services dont make sense being privatized, but the vast majority do. It is healthy to have a fear of socialism and authoritarianism to the point that you want to lean towards privatization (which more oftne than not works better) but at the same time you dont want to be so extreme that you push to privatize things (like prisons) that dont really make sense to be privatized (in the case of prisons because it gives legal authority to subjugate inmates which is already legally messy)

@louiscouture @ew

@lfrffs

Not sure i agree entierly. Most americans I think would have no problem supporting tax-payer paid fire departments. The Truth is the USA has some of the highest taxes in the world and we waste it on shit we dont need to (like the military)... there is good reason people are appalled by the democrats abusive spending and ever increasing taxes.

If the democrats actually **cut** spending (and there is more than enough to cut, like the military)and started spending our money responsibly there would be far less resistance to social programs.

@louiscouture @ew

@louiscouture

There is only one political compass

@ew

@ew

I listened to you, I just determined you were an idiot, bit difference. good bye.

@louiscouture

@ew

I told you the conversation was over, you can go away now.

@louiscouture

@ew

no im well aware that you need to "hold a gun" to peoples heads to pay for social programs, roads, snow removal on the highway, fire deartments, police, military, etc.. nor did I ever claim anything to the contrary... you dont see to bright as you completely ignored my entire counter argument and are going on some unrelated tangent... so probably not worth me discussing this with you.. your already having trouble following the conversation.

@louiscouture

@ew

saying complete nonsense that makes no sense when you explain it sounds just as ridiculous when scribble said nonsense on a diagram.

@louiscouture