🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@crunklord420

Cryptocurrency itself through DeFi apps directly provides margin, and gate.io provides both margin and futures as well. yes it has Monero as well. It has every coin you've heard of and quite a few you havent. The list is massive, like i said bigger than monero.

@Coyote

@likho

Thats hardly an argument against crypto.. It just means only some coins will be winners long run in terms of fiat.. other coins arent even meant to act as fiat so for them that isnt relevant.

@Coyote

@crunklord420

gate.io is a "real exchange" that has more coins than even binance.com and is available to Americans.

@Coyote

@Coyote

If you want to count credit cards or debit cards linked toc ryptocurrencies for spending then there are lots of options, even banks that will store your money as crypto for you so you get all the features of a bank (Revolut for example).

@likho

@likho

"Most cryptocurrencies, despite the market value, will not have any adoption as a method of payment,"

That can be clearly demonstrated to be false as they **already** have adoption as a form of payment.

Paypal now accepts cryptocurrencies at checkout, this covers like 50% of the internet or more right off the bat.

Moreover a ton of companies directly take Cryptocurrencies as payment now:

* Starbucks
* Microsoft
* Overstock
* Subway
* Shopify
* Dish Network
* AT&T
* Burger King (Venezuela)
* KFC (Canada)
* Twitch
* Pizza Hut (Venezuala)
* Miami Dolphins
* Mavricks
* Virgin Galactic
* Norwegian Air
* CheapAir
* NewEgg

The list is rather long I do I really need to continue?

@Coyote

@likho

Or just use a hardware wallet, this addresses that problem and allows you to safely store and transfer money even on insecure systems.

@Coyote

@icedquinn It is microsoft you should be upset with not linux :)

@Pixificial

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savant_syndrome

@olamundo

Then your still superstitious but you also have extreme autism.

@Pixificial

@Pixificial I am a fan of abnormality but not so much superstition.. if you are weird as the result of original and insightful thought I am all for it.

Like withcy occult types are awesome.. but "repeating numbers means god is talking to me" ... not so much.

I have to admit, people who do this annoy the fuck out of me.

@SADIDAS

Crypto gives massive returns, if there was no risk of any kind that wouldnt be the case, everyone would already be on it as an investment.

In fact what killed the crypto boom back in 2018 was government regulation.

The key for me is knowing when and getting out quick. Investment isnt about if a tech will make it 50 years to the top, only where its going tomorrow. The moment you get a sense that the government may ban it, you get out.

I did this int he 2018 boom and got out at the peak, it isnt hard to do because most people are going to go down with a sinking ship. Being a successful investor is all about sensing the change in wind and acting.

So even if you are right, by not investing in crypto you are still missing out on massive gains.

@Atlas_Khan @Coyote

@Coyote
You asking what coins to buy? Ethereum is your safer bet short term, cardano is a bit more long term but will likely get moer reward and more risk, ethereum tokens would be the other route to go. Avoid BTC and I wouldnt risk it on things like Goge.

@Atlas_Khan

@Bradley_JF Thanks

@Bradley_JF Yes that is the difficult part of course, doable but non trivial. In fact this conversation gave me a rather novel idea as to how to do exactly that that im mulling over to consider if its worth persuing.

With that said there is already an email blacklist where servers that spam get on the blacklist and generally is pretty trust worthy. Thought he blacklist is at the server level and only handles servers that allow users to spam en mass, it wouldnt address this case where users arent spamming via email and only using the email to create logins on other services they then use to spam.

@Bradley_JF It could still potentially work in that case, though the exact mechanics are a bit nebulous. Presuming people participated in it and when the first few people are attacked the new domain and/or address are added to the block list then they would only be able to spam a person or two before being stopped and needing to create a new domain.

Since domains cost money, albeit it not very much, it wouldnt be economically feasible for an attacker to spend 10$ per domain to spam 3 or 4 people before needing to create a new one.

The key to success of such a system would be to have mechanics where domains/accounts get blocked quickly enough that they cant spam enough people to make the domain worth the cost (which would require tens if not hundreds of thousands of spam events to make 10$) but at the same time not to be so quick to ban domains that there are a lot of false positives.

@Bradley_JF Thankfully QOTO has a pretty extensive email blacklist so lets hope they dont infect here... though blacklists are of limited effectiveness. I hope they arent using gmail addresses or something.

There really needs to be some decentralized email blacklist or email DB or something, though not sure how you could do that without abuse.