🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@sergeantcat One is a risk to the health of other employees. The other poses no risk to fellow employees.

That said while the two are not comparable I do not agree that companies should have the right to force or even know if you are vaccinated.

@zstark Simply the lack of handling the indentation alone is a good enough reason not to do this in my book..

I use emacs and i dont have api docs or even code completion turned on. But its still an IDE and provides the basics for usability and I think thats a must.

@Pat

"I haven't seen any research suggesting that the specific spike protein coded in the vaccines could become self-replicating in a way like a prion does."

You wont find any such research because we simply have no data to research any such claims. The point here is that it is an unknown, and we are dealing with a process we engineered that involves the folding of proteins. So its a possible concern, but without data we could only guess.

For someone 80+ I think they have a good argument to take the vaccine due to the high risk and the fact that they dont have much life left.

The issue with the mRNA is not mutations so much as misfolding due to unknown variables. We already dont really know how misfolding happens or how that can lead to prion disease. It is one of those diseases we are grasping at straws to understand. But when you try to hijack the system to fold your own proteins, considering the unknowns, it is one of countless possible concerns. It could be, for example, that other components other than the mRNA directly encoded might help prevent misfolding.

Simply put, we know too little and are working with too new a technology to not be extra cautious. But instead of being cautious we went the other route and rushed to get it out there. Its a recipe for disaster, but lets hope we wind up on the side of luck.

Either way the point is, being cautious and delaying taking the vaccine is a perfectly rational and non-selfish thing to do.

@Gina Decent, how about you?

@Pat I'm not sure its as much of a no brainer as you might suggest. The problem is that we are dealing with such a big unknown, with the safety not being conducted for long term, that I dont think its so straight forward.

There is no way anyone could even evaluate the long-term risks, since we have no data. We cant even reliably infer cause and effect due to the same lack of data. For example we know coronavirus can cause Parkinson and can cause the disease to progress, but we dont know if the vaccine has any risks in that regard since these are long-term effects. My mom did develop Parkinson shortly after being vaccinated and her doctors simply cant tell her either way if the vaccine played a role, the data isnt there to say.

mRNA treatment is particularly tricky as it isnt just a new vaccine but a relatively new delivery method. One concern that we wont be able to really know for 50+ years is the possibility of misfolding and thus causing prion disease. Wouldn't be the first time that rushing to treat a disease and skipping safety tests or proper vetting resulting in more damage than the disease would have caused.

If one thing history should tell us its that rushing to cures as we are doing here tends to be a very bad decision.

@icedquinn Literally when your account puts the cart before the horse.

@sandycorzeta I do hope so!

@Pat right, there arent many good reasons to just be against vaccines all together short of immunodeficient people or something.

As for the hesitant group, I find them far more reasonable than either extreme really. Most are just waiting for a year or two to pass to make up for the lack of long-term safety testing we normally require of vaccines (And bypassed), seems like the most reasonable course honestly. What bothers me more is that these people tend to be a small minority, most are either "you MUST be vaccinated NOW!" or just against them all together.

Most of it just comes down to stupidity and thats what makes it so much more annoying.

@mur2501 People will probably use it anyway, especially considering the vast majority of codecs isnt using the open-source one (like hardware)... I mean GIF is the same way, its patented but seems the world keeps on turning.

@Pat Sadly fairly valid, at least on the anti-vax side. By that I mean, the people who refuse the vaccine outright, not the far more reasonable people who are just waiting for the obvious safety reasons. Anti-maskers on the other hand seem to have a different M.O. though there is some overlap.

Anyway that said this absolutely covers a huge chunk of people, and it is sad.

@icedquinn

They dont tend to be too heavy thankfully. It has served me well so far

@Locksmith

@mur2501 why is that?

@sergeantcat another good reason indeed! You are welcome.

@icedquinn

Strictly speaking I could also write my code on a notebook and debug on paper..

I'd say features that significantly decrease the time I spend waiting is something that pays for itself. so even if it is a want, its effectively paying me to get it in the end.

@Locksmith

@Locksmith

Can't use a desktop when im in a cafe. I already have a very powerful desktop. A laptop is supplementary to that and to ensure i can still code on the go.

@icedquinn

@icedquinn

depends.. when it comes to resolution and screen size I'm not sure how that logic would apply. What is better than a laptop that lets me develop in a cafe at high resolution with decent screen realestate?

Not to mention I need to actually run and test my code locally, if my machine isnt powerful thats costing me noticeable time.

@Locksmith

@niconiconi What a gorgeous piece of kit. Also surprisingly affordable on ebay... I think I might need one!

@mur2501 h.264 mostly.. best compression ratio. Plus all my hardware has what it takes to decode in real time so its fine.

Doesnt mean it would be a codec I'd use for a public product though as older hardware or even low-end hardware might not handle it well as it is relatively processor intensive. Thankfully most systems have hardware h.264 decoders these days.