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@swiley I have no idea what Fauci said, nor do I care what he or any one specific doctor says. I care about the scientific consensus which has herd immunity well above 80%

@swiley Wrong, Israel has <80% vaccinated as of the latest figures and herd immunity kicks in above 80% with this virus.. So no they dont have herd immunity yet.

Also remember what I said, herd immunity only works when the entire population reaches it quickly (before variants have a chance to form which accelerates as you vaccinate before reaching herd immunity). We achieved herd immunity with smallpox, for example, because the campaign was global and that was a bit of an easier virus in terms of variants.

@denza252 You could probably ask for clarification, but negotiate implies your getting them to change the rules. Why would they engage in negotiation? The genie has nothing to gain by agreeing to your terms and has something to lose.

@swiley While I dont agree that it should be forced on anyone, there is a need, and the conspiracy theorists created it.

There are countless people who beleived their lies and arent smart enough to know better who are going to die. It has kept the vaccinations from reaching herd immunity and as such the potential for ever more variants to arise.

So the need is preventing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people that anti-vaxers have caused.. yes there is a "need", I just dont feel that justified forced vaccination no matter how big that need may be

@swiley I agree 100% with you, thats an issue. But then again thats just as much the conspirasy theorists fault as it is the governments. If so many people werent out there spreading lies convincing people to put their lives at risk there wouldnt have been the need.

I doubt a single one of the COVID conspiracy theory nutters out there could even answer this quiz, and this is just the basic level.

@mk

The OP blocked me so no. I can explain the original discussion if you wish.

@icedquinn

@icedquinn Kudos for actually trying to do real analysis. I will let you know what I see once i take a closer look at the pluto notebook. Have setup a pluto workspace first.

@icedquinn

thanks, ill have to find a way to run pluto notebook and check your work.

@Salaru

@123abceng

Sorry I block people I catch lying, especially when they dont put in an effort to apologize. Welcome to block. Dont lie about someone being a doctor when they arent next time.

@Salaru

@123abceng

Sorry once you posted random comments from a thread with no indiciation the person commenting was a doctor and lied and said he was a doctor anyway you lost all credibility to have a hand in this conversation. I am not going to be a detective and track down every time you lie.. your first lie was enough to get cut off, your done, bye. go to the next thread.

@Salaru

@123abceng

lolololol yea he must be an md cause it was 4 months ago on a comment therad.

@Salaru

@123abceng

Wow dude, he isnt a doctor. I just looked for the source of this post, its from a comment thread on a webpage you screen shotted. Absolutely nothing to indicate he is a doctor... nice try, lololol.

@Salaru

@icedquinn

Also to be clear here, I didnt use correlation in my argument, I used granger causality. This was very intentional on my part

@Salaru

@icedquinn

Please show full sources and your work.. specifically where your getting data from and the worksheet you used to do the calculations so it can be reviewed.

@Salaru

@Salaru

My party of racial eugenics? What the fuck are you talking about, since when did the Libertarian party do racial eugenics?

If your so riddled with propaganda and bias you assume, and get wrong, my personal party how in the world can I expect you to be objective enough to deal with the subject matter at hand at all?

@icedquinn

@Salaru

For that matter if the data is so untrustworthy then why did **you** use that same data in your original post as if it was meaningful when you thought it agreed with you? Now all of a sudden the same data you used actually shows your wrong its bad data.

See the problem there? Again we call that cherry picking.

@icedquinn

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