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@burner19bb

Sure, how about they stop murdering white people if white cops agree to stop suffocating blacks to death for non-violent victimless crimes? Cant have white cops choking a black dude for death, for up to 4 minutes after the dude already died and told he is dead STILL choking him, and then expect blacks to play along.

Works both ways, if you cant admit your contribution to the problem and commit to fixing it then you cant expect them to admit to their contribution or commit to fixing it. Luckily there are some people on both side who arent so naive and are trying to address both these things.

@StroopWaffen

@borzoi

About the same as when I was in predominately white schools. Perhaps a bit more so as economics were more of a pressing issue for many of them.

@matrix @mkultra @Ottovonshitpost

@Ariovistus

Wrong. Slaves were legal and actively traded until the 1800s in Britain and Europe as a whole. Slaves were not made illegal in europe until the 1860s, almost 25 years after it was made illegal in the USA.

@MaceDindu @matrix @ChristiJunior

@Ottovonshitpost

Welcome to mute for being racist and a bit slow intellectually.

Thanks for playing.

@matrix @mkultra

@RoyalJohnny242

Welcome to mute for being indistinguishable from a moron with a 4th degree education and mental problems.

Thanks for playing.

@matrix @mkultra @Ottovonshitpost

@mkultra

Depends on the bus and where I was living at the time. It ranged anywhere from there being only one or two whites to there being only one or two blacks at different times in my life.

@matrix @Ottovonshitpost

@StroopWaffen There are many factors. Black communities internally certainly have things they are doing that arent helping that should be addressed. There are also outside factors that need addressing. Then there are the historic ones. Despite what either side will tell you the problem is very complex and while racism towards blacks is an element it is far from the only element at play. A lot of things need to come together from a lot of angles to improve the conditions of any culture.

The future of black communities is uncertain honestly. Internally there are people trying to make positive change, and there are externally too. But the problem is reduced by politics and being politically correct to such an extreme degree that it becomes impossible to really carve out effective solutions, our hands are tied by politically correctness as well as a rejection of the problem even existing, and many other factors. It is hard to address the internal changes blacks need to made without being called a racist, for example, as if it is blaming them for the problem. But also whites tend to refuse to address the racism they impart because at the same time they feel like it is blamming them for the problem. So nothing gets done.

If we stopped arguing about who is to blame (which is all anyone did in this thread) and focus on how to solve the problem without regard to blame we could really make some progress. But society doesnt allow this and the direction its going is farther away from this state.

So... yea, things will probably get worse before they get better when it comes to racial issues.

@Teuton_Cornelius

Not reverse psychology. Your proposal of kicking all the whites out so the blacks here can not be oppressed by us sounds wonderful. Seriously you got my support.

@matrix

@Ottovonshitpost

In philadelphia, where I live in the USA, blacks make up 42% of the population, whites make up 40% of the population. Would you like to play again?

@matrix @mkultra

@StroopWaffen While not specific to those neighboorhoods I already do volunteer in high-crime high-black neighborhoods. They have mostly embraced me with open arms as you suggest.

@Teuton_Cornelius

Good Idea, ship all the white people out to europe and lets make this happen (/sarcasm)

@matrix

@ChristiJunior

Yes, I oppose affirmative action and race-based preferential treatment. I also explicitly stated so earlier in the thread already. Read first before slinging mud maybe?

@matrix @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum

@StroopWaffen

How would that be putting my money where my mouth is? You seem to be having a real hard time with reading comprehension or something, it almost sounds likeyou think I said (which I didnt) that blacks dont make up a large portion of those committing crime? In fact since the get go I admitted that they do.

Try reading things before you post, if you already are then read them twice because you seem to be having some difficulty absorbing what you read accurately.

@matrix

@NotAFederalAgent

No way, would never take that honor away from poa.st. We are second place at best.

@matrix @Ottovonshitpost

@dew_the_dew

Welcome to mute for being indistinguishable from a 6 year old both intellectually and in terms of maturity.

Thanks for playing.

@matrix @ChristiJunior @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum

@ChristiJunior

Keep in mind just because I didnt explicitly state there is institutional/structural racism does not imply I am saying there is none. I simply made no assertions on that point either way. So yes, feel free to hold me to the fact that I did not express my opinion on that point.

"Thank you, I'll certainly hold you to that. So if you understand you right, your claim is that the effects of all-encompassing structural pro-black preferential treatment are somehow nullified and even rendered vastly insufficient by vague, undefined "social" racism? "

No you do not understand me correctly, no I did not say that (or at least did not intend that to be the interpretation). Affirmative action is not "nullified" by social racism at all, or any form of racism. Its very nature, and even more so how it is implemented, makes it ineffective, even if there were a lack of racism, at addressing the problems we face. Since it does not have a positive effect on the problem then there is nothing to "nullify" to begin with.

@matrix @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum

@natsock

Muted for a combination of stupidity and racism while not actually even attempting to add any value to the discussion.

Thanks for playing.

@matrix

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