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@34a3cff1fb40

I created the UFoI because a self proclaimed nazi named snow annoubced publucly he and a bunch if his followers were going to create alts on lgbtq servers and spread misi formation about qoto... it worked and now people are blocking for made up and silly reasons. Things i can easily disprove and no one listens.

@Romaq

@Howard

I dont mind if people use iot, even if they use it a lot... but to suspend/b;ock someone or a server over it is an astonishing turn for the worst for the fedi.

@jeff

@Howard

After having seen how toxic some in mastodon can be, demanding more and more from you under the threat of being suspended over increasingly insiignificant things I do kinda get the push back.

I will CW over things that would get you trouble in work or images of violence that can be really harmful.. But I try not to go too crazy with it either.

@jeff

@volkris @digital_carver Yes thats because we implemented the feature years befor emainstream, so you access it a bit different.

@mguhlin qoto doesnt block it. I think i have a good idea how to fix it, ill check tomorrow

@pwinn

Ok i think i know whats going on there. Ill look into it tomorrow

@mguhlin

@Hyolobrika@berserker.town

Well welcome to the Fedi where every ban is a shadowban :)

@notthatkaren @stux

@Howard

Honestly the fedi has turned pretty nasty and toxic since the twitter influx... I am not surprised people have gotten so crazy about it they are blocking instances just for not using CW... in my 5+ years ont he fedi this is depressing to see.

@jeff

@punkscience

The toxic blocking shit is out of hand lately... I tried to create the UFoI, simply a bunch of servers that promise not to suspend eachother and promise to keep a shared code of ethics... some people are blocking whole instances just for wanting that, its absurd.. which ironically is why it was created.

@jeff @matthewkeys

@marathon@fosstodon.org Yeea it got toxic as hell real damn fast.

@Howard

I've actually never seen a server blocked for not using CW... even 100K plus servers usually dont have CW rules and arent usually blocked.

@jeff

@jeff Yes the way it works right now is members are only tentative, the names are kept secret until launch to mitigate harassment (people are trying to stop it before it launches).. It is also for boot strapping.

Right now members will remain secret as we publicly discuss and refine bylaws. Right before launch all members will be revealed to eachtother and then members can report any problematic members (and/or leave themselves).. the remaining members get voted in and thent he list made public.

We originally had the names public.

@Howard

What actions? So far I havent seen anything from them to suggest they should be blocked.

@jeff

@jeff This an incidents like it exemplify the need for UFoI.org and reassures me that we are on the right track.

@stux to be cleart it was shadowbanned, not actual ban.. Also im not sure if its confirmed or not.

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