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@voidabyss

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But you may be right, the level of absurdity is a bit over the top.

@a_cup_of_sugar

@obi

That is a very valid concern and can think of many exemples in that regard that prove your point.

@unit13

@threalist I agree the media amplifies this shit, but its hardly the only source... I have seen countless examples of the right exemplifying how they are represented int he media... hell I saw my own uncle (someone who used to be very science minded) turning into a raving lunatic.

@rudyschwartz@dobbs.town Ok, im willing to test it out then...

Just a few years ago my city was on fire, literally the skys were black, homes, business and government buildings were burning because of riots that were almost entirely fueld by liberal absolutism.

Yes I can think of quite a few things the liberals have done that has caused a great deal of harm due to absolutism that lacked any nuance.

@unit13

I wouldnt go that far (unless we are questioning things just to learn where our gaps are)...

Ther eis a happy middle ground where well established scientific facts are kinda absurd to question wholly (the earth is flat, there is no human cuased global warming, etc)... but then there are plenty of things worth questioning, the lefts treatment of many COVID topics for example, which is clearly a topic too new for there to be much of any settled issues. I mean yea if you say COVID doesnt exist your an idiot, but if you question if we need to wear masks for decades on end and if it will fix the problem, thats probably an ok question to ask.

@obi

@threalist Its not the qwuestioning thats the issue, its the level of stupidity and absudity that "questioning" often takes.. much as the left being equally absurd in the opposite way (refusing to recognize the nuance of some topics).

@rudyschwartz@dobbs.town I dont really mind answering this.. but can you even invision an answer of any kind that wont result in some toxic interaction where you start calling me names and for daring to say anything bad about liberals... funny enough i expect just as much toxicity if i answer the person on the right who just objected from the other side.

@obi Hey look its great to be open-minded but at the same time dont be so open-minded your brains fall out.

@a_cup_of_sugar I am not the head of the company (CEO) I am the head of all STEM operations at the company (CIO, specifically Clinical, Data Science, and Analytical Chemistry teams). As I said if you arent capable of searching the studies we published and seeing my name I have no objection to getting it to you when I am at my computer and not my phone. Just really bizarre how assumptive you are considering my title as the head of STEM at a company exclusive to COVID research.

Try talking to people and having productive conversations rather than jumping in with the toxicity next time, you might actually get somewhere.

For the record me and other people working on COVID are pretty damn sick of laypeople coming in with their anti-science crap and starting drama every time someone tries to have a candid conversation (you know, actual science).... "Oh my god you said masks wont solve all our problems and wont eliminate covid, clearly your a fraud!"... you are part of the problem, despite the fact that I'm sure you think your helping.

Hot take: The absolute scientism of the left (lacking all nuance on scientific issues) is just as harmful as the anti-science rhetorc of the right... science is nuanced, remove the nuance and all you have is dogma.

@a_cup_of_sugar I am not the head of the company (CEO) I am the head of all STEM operations at the company (CIO, specifically Clinical, Data Science, and Analytical Chemistry teams). As I said if you arent capable of searching the studies we published and seeing my name I have no objection to getting it to you when I am at my computer and not my phone. Just really bizarre how assumptive you are considering my title as the head of STEM at a company exclusive to COVID research.

Try talking to people and having productive conversations rather than jumping in with the toxicity next time, you might actually get somewhere.

For the record me and other people working on COVID are pretty damn sick of laypeople coming in with their anti-science crap and starting drama every time someone tries to have a candid conversation (you know, actual science).... "Oh my god you said masks wont solve all our problems and wont eliminate covid, clearly your a fraud!"... you are part of the problem, despite the fact that I'm sure you think your helping.

@SueInRockville

Unfortunately this isnt remotely accurate... look I dont like the GOP but bidens approval rating doesnt even approch 50%. I tis currently at 44% (average of all the most credible polls).. His **disapproval** rating is 51%.

It always amazes me how either side of the political line can just tell bald face lies and expect no one is going to catch it.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/b

@JonCooper

@a_cup_of_sugar

Then feel free to wait until I am home and as I said I will be more than happy to link you directly to some of my work... since clearly being the head of a company which exclusively works on COVID research is a bit too ambiguous for you.

@a_cup_of_sugar "undermined"... scientists arent here to make biased assertions.. things are nuanced and not as black and white as people want them to be... I made it clear that protections will reduce the virus, I also made it clear that the virus wont be eliminated and will not go away and resurge should we stop using those protections....

These are facts, protections reduce covid and never eliminate them, period...So your telling me you dont disagree with what I said yet are still arguing with me.

@a_cup_of_sugar And what phrase in there do you think represents "shouting down covid protections"... You mean the part where I explicitly state such protections can dwindle the disease down to insignificant levels?

Are you seriously going to say that you never heard a scientist claim COVID isnt going away? Clearly you are very disconnected from the scientific community since the idea that COVID is here to stay is the overwhelming majority opinion in my expiernce.

@a_cup_of_sugar@mastodon.The page is the current summary of our COVID data collection for all of our clinical studies. The linnk shows you the database which, references our clinical studies

@a_cup_of_sugar Please quote the part where I "shout down covid protections", now your behavior sounds even more strange.

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