🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@kjr Thank you.

One of the largest standards organization in the world. They define many of the standards computers and electronics work on.

@saint Thank you

@macfranc

Just to clarify we arent on an old release. Our version doesnt track mastodon, and you are correct we are not a mastodon instance we are a fork. So our version is not an indication of how "up to date" we are.

And yes we have features from many different "standards" and quite a few unique ones as well.

Kinda laughable the over-the-top comment though, would love to see an example of that.

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@ligthert To be fair it was probably my fault before I became a senior member too ::eyeballs the 40 foot antenna on his roof::

@tripu Thank you

@ruby Thats actually not a fair assesment.. While the USA public transport is certainly not top class by any means and I can list quite a few countries that beat the USA, we are far from the bottom too... Every major city has a pretty decent bus system inside the city and there is pretty decent inter-city train networks. Compare this to egypt or Israel where using a train or bus is extremely limited and doesnt even approach the accessiblity provided in the USA.

Well Ijust got the official notice, I am now a IEEE Senior member (The highest level one can apply for)

@CloudyMrs

Similar to what I would do for the USA... Instead of having a structure where national government overrules local governments/regions inverse that where the local regions laws and rules take precedence over national. The role of the larger bodies therefore is to set up voluntary alliances local governments can opt into or out of if they meet certain requirements and get certain benefits.

This way the UK in its current form doesnt exist and instead it becomes a loose coalition of countless initiatives that local governments can opt-into or not.

Its actually the same fundemental idea as what the USA was in the early days where state rights took precendence over national laws and states could choose to adopt laws or not and receive benefits if they do.

A practical example is how laws were passed that set a drinking age in the USA. Basically states got together and agreed to pay a tax and make laws to set drinking age and in return those states that did so agreed to share the tax money to create interstate highways. It was totally opt-in but the benefit of organizing in this way was so high that virtually all states adopted the law.

Of course there are many civil rights issues in early america, so im not suggesting the whole kit and caboodle be adopted as a good framework. But the general idea of local-first government is a good example of how it could work.

@Paulos_the_fog

@samueljohnson

> I recommend you inform yourself about the Trilogue process. Good luck with the break-up of the US.

I am very well aware of what the Trilogue process is. Likewise I'd like to suggest you try a more mature debating style, it is likely to allow your conversations to be more productive.

For example instead of saying "I recommend you inform yourself about the Trilogue process" Which is condescending and implies, without any basis, that i must be ignorant on what that is you try something more like "Are you familiar with the Trilogue process, if not check it out it might change your opinion"... There is very clear tone in how you speak that is very childish and antagonistic and it isnt doing you any favors.

> FWIW many Europeans are tired of American antagonism to the EU, a great deal of which is based on resentment of it being to stand up the US in matters of trade. Trump's appointee Mick Mulvaney eg, was perfectly clear about this: US would get a better deal if it could bully smaller countries. Not going to happen.

Well it already did happen, brexit happened. Not sure if it will happen again but other countries have their own brexit support going as well that may in the coming years follow the same pattern as the UK (or perhaps not). Its a growing movement in the netherlands for example (called Nexit there).

That said I think its a fair concern that large abusive countries like the USA cause the formation of other large entities (like the EU) that themselves have the potential to devolve into abusive entities. As I said I'd be happy to reduce the powers of the EU and USA both.

That said keep in mind im only against globalized (or at least large) bodies of governance. There are ways to organize and stand up against the USA that doesnt require a governing body that resembles the EU.

@CloudyMrs @Paulos_the_fog

@CloudyMrs

Sure, and I can understand that. But I wasnt implying **you** wanted to break up the UK.. I am stating that **I** would support breaking up the UK, just as I support breaking up the EU.

@Paulos_the_fog

@CloudyMrs

Yes, and i said as much myself, id also break up the UK, so we agree in that regard.

@Paulos_the_fog

@samueljohnson

Oh and thank you for changing your tone to a more respectful one, it was noticed and appreciated.

@CloudyMrs @Paulos_the_fog

@samueljohnson

Obviously when i say centralized government i mean large governing bodies that govern large portions of the planet, with a preference for small local governments. I beleive that to be thr case no matter how well governed it may be at the current moment.

Yes as an american citizen i likewise support state rights over national rights and feel the us shoukd be broken up or at a minimum the centralization of power in the national govt curtailed or eliminated (as do many americans btw).

@CloudyMrs @Paulos_the_fog

@samueljohnson

First off i never said i support the UK either, i woukd break up the UK the same way i would break up the UK.

Secondly i dont recall stating any particular EU law oppressed me. Also try discussing in a more mature tone, you are coming across as if your a step away from being rude simply because someone has a different opinion than you, id imagine your better than that.

@CloudyMrs @Paulos_the_fog

@CloudyMrs

The consequence of a mismanaged brexit, as i already said was an issue.

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