🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@rrb @pj mistakes happen. Whether i wasnt clear or you misheard, the jmportant part is we clarify when that happens, and thsts what we just did, all good.

If you have threatened to use violence, or used it, and there is evidence to show it, that is illegal. You shoukd wind up in jail and have your access to guns revoked for the forseeable future. When and how you can get thst right back and prove your reabilitated is another matter, and i dont have the answer to thar. But for the forseeable future if the acts you described can be proven then the person shouldnt just be loosing a right to guns, thry shoukd be in prison.

@rrb @pj

Incorrect. I said that using a persons medical diagnosis to take away rights will result in people avoiding medical diagnosis and make matters worse.

At no point did i even suggest that a person where there is evidence of violent ghreats (which are illegal btw) shoukd have access to a gun.

Lets stick to the facts and not start twisting what people say please.

@pj @rrb

If someone is smuggling in guns and giving them to people that currently arent legally allowed guns, i think youd find everyone would agree that needs to be prevented.

@pj @rrb

No its not the wild west, and in theory polkce shoukd orotect us... but in practice thst makes little sense. Police come when you call them and there is going to be a delay no matter how well funded. You cant even call police if your being jumped or raped most of the time.

In the end its great to talk about ideals and what shoukd be or shouldnt be. But we have to schknowledge reality, and the reality is that in most incidents the police will never be a reliable security.

For example only 46% of violent crimes in general are reported, i suspect much less for rape. Of those reported only 30% even result in an arrest. Its clear from these numbers very very few, if any, rape cases are acted on by police and prevented.

@guardeddon have you asked the app devs? Ghry probably have a accout on AP

@lavahot i dont think it woukd be fitting to swap... dont get me wrong women often protect the weak and men often love the unloved. But i dont see that as good representstions of the fiery aspects of masculinity or the watery aspects of femininity.

@pj @rrb

Because guns are an ewualizer.. a woman without a gun against a man without a gun, thry are on equal footing.

Almost always its the stronger praying on thr weaker. Guns equalize that.

@Waiting4Thunder

Already part of my fact pattern. But thanks for pointing it out. Its an importang point.

@futurebird @mike805

@pj @rrb

And the whole schizophrenic thing... doesnt matter if you thinknifs a privilage or a right. If you tell people they will no longer have access to guns and the ability tonuse it to protect themselves if thry go seek therapy and happen to get a mental health diagnosis, then leople will avoid therapy... you just made things way worse not better.

@pj @rrb

No the right vs privilage argument is secondary for me... im a scientist i care about what works. What i know is the numbers show almost every time, you ban guns it either has no net benefit or, more kften, causes violent acts, especially rape, to sky rocket.

I support guns because banning them takes lives.

@pj @rrb

What we know is that gubs arent the solution, but we know they arent the problem either. Banning them in a violent society makes things more violent. Im willing to suspect in a peaceful society banning them or not has no effect.

The solutions lie in changing our environments to be healthy, and improving access to mental health (which by the way is the exact opposite of what woukd haplen kf we toom away gun rights from people who seek therapy and get diagnosed)

@johnzajac Doctors should probably masked up long before covid was even in existance considering the number of patients they see with infectious disease.

I dont think anyone needs to be masking up in public at this point, but in a hospital or doctors kffice, hell yea.

@Pat @braindouche @trinsec

Well no wonder, it had a mad man chasing after it. If you just would have been patient and sat around until noon it would have came to you!

@rrb @pj

This is all from a quick search. Being on my phone i didnt have time to verify them so you may want to double check them.

@rrb @pj

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason

@rrb @pj

A person shoukd be expected to make sure they are fit to drive and are liable if thry dont. So yes a person woukd have to choose to take those tests to avoid negelgence and liability of course but that doesnt mean the government woukd administer or check the tests.

But more importantly talking about people with psychological disorders, thats a very dangerous restricgion. If you start taking away rights because someone sees a doctor and gets diagnosed the end result is people avoiding mental health for fear of loosing thier rights. Thats a horrible jdea.