🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@glynmoody I think brexit was the right choice but there was so much infighting and people who wanted it to fail that the execution was horrific and in pratice it was a failure but didnt need to be.

@breadandcircuses

This is incorrect. The origin of the term "Climate Change" in this post is bunk.

@pies

LOL the actual science (granger causality tests and similar good-analysis approaches) would disagree with you.

@zack @MelodyCooper

@pies

No it would be a hard thing to prove.. But you dont have to go around life only beleiving in things that have clear proof. In fact most things in life you have to make a judgement call without being able to "prove" it..

As for them not having guns, nah, as we have seeen countless times that makes things much much worse.

@zack @MelodyCooper

@pies

anyone who spent any real time and is honest with themselves in America knows exactly why the american murder rate is so high... when you are there it feels like visiting an insane asylum, the mental health issues are huge there and pervasive.

@zack @MelodyCooper

@pmonks @MikeBon

No this example was invslidated because the super rich, as we are discussing dont hover tax brackets by definition. And it isnt saving you money overall except in that edge case.

@realcaseyrollins @icedquinn

Nothing wrong with being single

@georgetakei se3ms reasonable to me.. if you are legslly an adult in every other way...

@Pat call it what you will, the co stitution ensures your right is legally protected.

No you havent really given any examples, in each case i explained why it wasnt a valid example.. civil rights and voting right acts did not protect any rights they simply gave consequences for violating certain rights codified in the constitution. You gave examples of forcong people to do abortions but didnt explain how that woukd protect the woman from arrest.

See ya

@gemelliz

I dunno ive seen all this mentioned in the news.. but yea its not front page, i think people have come to accept it and moved on.. im ok with that as long as the medical community keeps working on it.

@nateb_panic

@Pat you cant "pass a law that allows".. laws dont allow things thry disallow things...

@Pat Be specific, what bill are they trying to pass that you think would grant the right to abortion?

@lawprofblawg yes anyone who points oit facts clearly wants mass murder lolol

@Pat Jim Crow laws did come after the 15th amendment, in fact the voting rights act was nearly 100 years after the 15th amendment.

None the less laws in the usa **do not** grant rights. They prescribe what is illegal and what the consequences are, nothing more.

Even the introduction to the voting rights act is **very** explicit that the rights granted come from the 15th amendment and that the voting rights act simply codifies the consequences for violating those rights. Read the very first paragraph of the voting rights act which is as follows:

> AN ACT To enforce the fifteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That this Act shall be known as the "Voting Rights Act of 1965."

@Pat The voting right act was only possible alongside the 15th amendment, which granted the fundamental rights, then the law itself codified various aspects of it. Which goes to prove my point, laws which secure rights can only exist if those rights are first protected in the constitution since laws only codify what is illegal.

@Pat it doesnt circunscribe federal law.. the law you suggested was that an obgyn woukd have tonperform an abortion, he did. Thr woman just went to jail afterwards.

Since a law can only make something illegal no law congress coukd pass woukd prevent a state from making abortion illegal. We have rights for that.

@Pat i never said congress cant regulate stuff, i am saying they cant grant rights without an amendment.

Take the example here. So lets saythey passed that law, and in some state they also made abortions illegal.. so now you have a situation where if a person goes to an obgyn they will be forced to do the abortion but they also would be forced to report thr woman who got the abortion and have her arrested. How is that a solution?

@Pat what exactly are you proposing they make as a law with regard to interstate commerce? I have yet to hear a workable enforcable law you coukd pass with a simple majority that woukd grant a right. Even with interstate commerce the laws passed limit rights dont grant them

@Pat No you cant make it illegal for a state to do x.. states cant be arrested and such a statement makes no sense. You coukd maybe do something like "its illegal for a doctor not to perform an abortion on requesf" but im pretty sure forcing a doctor to do an abortion woukd be unconstitutional.

@Pat the civil rights act **outlaws** discrimination. It does not grant a right at the civil level. As i said laws decide what is illegal, what a federal law cant do is force something to be illegal. Civil rights act proves my point, it codifies things that are illegal, it does not codify rights.