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El Duvelle

Where are you on the political scale? Please boost wildly!* 😃​

(*) Yes I mean Wildly not just widely

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Paul Brownjohn

@freemo @turboquokka @ariaflame @trinsec @pattykimura

Thanks for that - you are right, I have no problem at all with Trans people so long as they don't jump down my throat for expressing my opinion.

I don't really have a need to put up with a pile-on over this, or indeed anything else, so I simply block anyone who gets in a strop - I'm here to enjoy myself not to be attacked by hysterical objectors to what I say!

I was hoping that this would be a more reasoned and measured place than the Vulture site - I was wrong!

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@Paulos_the_fog

It depends largely on who you respond to as well. If someone is far-left or far-right you will usually get a pile on if you try to have any more moderate discussion. Likewise if you know the person and they are largely moderate and willing to discuss their views then you will have a receptive conversation.

If you are just commenting on strangers post you shouldnt be surprised you might be jumping into a group that falls anywhere on the ideological spectrum.

@turboquokka
@ariaflame @trinsec @pattykimura

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@turboquokka

Whether his take is wrong or right (and I think its wrong for a few reasons), it clearly isnt coming from a place of transphobia, at least not so far as anything he expressed would suggest. That said I do think he is wrong due to a more general bit of logic...

Ok so lets assume he is right about the fact that someone born a male and transitioned later will tend to have an advantage... Ok so if thats true what your telling me is if someone has a baby girl, and they inject that baby with testosterone at an early age, they will grow up to be a super athelete, and since as an adult they will have normal testosterone, but the effects linger from being a baby, they would be entierly legal to compete in the woman's division, and as I stated some sort of super athlete due to their childhood doping.

So what you've proven is the opposite of what you intended. You proved that a system which divides male-female based on their hormone levels in adulthood OR their birth sex, either system is invalid and easily gamed from either end... therefore you have proven the very need for a system that no longer divides athletes based on birth sex, and therefore must adapt fairly to transpeople somehow.

@Paulos_the_fog @ariaflame @trinsec @pattykimura

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nixCraft 🐧

It is heartbreaking that the UK government mistreated Alan Turing. Many AI tech enthusiasts may not be aware of his contributions to the field. In 1950, Turing developed a test for artificial intelligence that is still used today, making him a valuable asset in computer science. Everyone should honor his legacy and memory. RIP, Alan.

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@TruthSandwich

So after a quick read while the data is formulated in quite a few ways, none of it seems to show how many of the nonvoters prefer neither candidate, vs prefering trump, vs prefering some other candidate.. in fact I dont even see "neither/no candidate" as a result in the data at all.

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@TruthSandwich

Im not going to go out of my way to get around paywalls, if you provide the link, sure ill look.. But generally any news agency that is for-profit is already discredited in my view going in since they clearly have a motivation to be biased if/when it gets them more views, which equates to more money, so they tend towards sensationalism and one-sideded ness as a result... regardless i will read your gift link.

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@TruthSandwich

I cant look at the article, I tried, it was pay walled.

The title however suggests it doesnt address the discussion.. it says they "handed trump the election"... which is probably some 2-party nonsense, but regardless if its true its not the same as saying non-voters thought Trump was the superior candidate, or a good candidate.

@ech

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@TruthSandwich

Of **course** voters and non voters dont have the same views. We can infer from the fact that they didnt vote that they will by far have the largest (and almost exclusive) number of voters who side with none of the candidates.

In fact its so obvious that the bulk of people who support neither candidate will be non-voters it amazes me this is even suggested that non-voters would have the same breakdown.

@ech

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@TruthSandwich

No your statement now changed... among the subset of white people who voted, yes, a majority voted fascist... that is **not** the same as saying a majority of white people are fascist.

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@TruthSandwich

Whether that is true or not is not the point of what I said.

@ech

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@TruthSandwich

Agreed, Trump being fascist trash is obvious, and I agree with what Obama said.. I am only said what Obama thinks or says is not a very good argument, the actual actions of Trump are good arguments.

@ech

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@TruthSandwich

Fact: a majority of whites did not vote for Trump (they either voted for someone else or not at all)... full stop.

@ech

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@TruthSandwich

As I said, whether the usage of terms are technically accurate or not is certainly a fair debate... I am just saying the pattern of usage I typically see from people, and as I pointed out most people using these terms dont fully understand their technical meaning.

@ech

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@TruthSandwich

I agree completely that Trump is a fascist. that said what Obama says is a very weak argument in that regard (other arguments are more valid and would make the case well IMO)

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@TruthSandwich

You just moved the goal post. **You** made the assertion that a majority of whites voted for Trump, ergo they are majority fascist. But in fact a majority of the white population did not vote for Trump, ergo your assertion doesnt hold up. Now if you still want to assert a majority of whites are fascist then its you who needs to bring the evidence.

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@ech

Its not just the lawsuits, to this day he still claims the elections were rigged when he knows full well they werent. Lawsuits at least have fairness to them where an objective third party can investigate, I have no problem with that. The issue is in how he acted and spoke, and continues to, about anon-existant election fraud.

@TruthSandwich

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@ech

BTW if we really want to get into fascism from trump the parade is a pretty minor example... Not accepting the results of an election that he clearly lost and his fraud claims were very obviously invalid (yet he still pushed them) is very clearly fascist in nature. It is also quite damning

@TruthSandwich

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@ech

I think the problem is you are treating fascism as an all or nothing state (same way people treat capitalism)... thats just not how it works... Trump has elements of fascism, whether those are bad enough to be a concern is always the crux of the problem.

Is france fascist for having a military parade on bastille day... well it was definately a fascist move, and tipped the scale ever more slightly towards fascism.. but a country/person is not a state of fascism vs not fascism.. its always a sliding scale.

@TruthSandwich

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@ech

I think Truth has a very specific bubble he views reality through.. most people do in fact.

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