🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@jeffcliff @luckytran

> It does matter. It matters that we can't seem to get covid under control.

Depends what you mean by "under control"... COVID is probably at the levels it will be at for the rest of our lives... The nature of the disease and its vaccines means this is probably where we are going to be stuck at in terms of levels in the population. If everyone masks up again and gets indoors you might see a temporary drop, but it will go right back to baseline in the end.

So its time to just put time and money into better vaccine research and better medical support for the sick... forcing everyone into low-level hazmat for the rest of their lives isnt a solution.

> If they are used properly it *does* reduce community spread of covid.

This is fairly likely to be true, I would agree. The problem is that it is **not** used properly and humans are not receptive enough to education for that to be likely to change in numbers great enough for masks to start doing more good than harm... so its a fairly moot point

> Sure. We can deal with that AFTER COVID IS OVER

There is no COVID being over... short of some drastic leap in medical technology that is likely not to happen for at least a generation, COVID will never be over. The nature of the virus in terms of both resevoirs and asymptomatic carriers virtually garuntees you wont eliminate COVID no matter what you do.

> Not even close. The continuation of an AIRBORN disease killing millions of people and maiming upwards of a billion people is VERY tilted towards whatever will end it.

Moot point, the disease is continuing no matter what you do.. the idea that masks will end COVID completely is nonsensical, it isnt an option.

> This is like complaining that a firefighter's mask is blocking the
ability of deaf people to lipread [which it does] wile they are trying to put out a housefire.

No its not... The firefirghters would be like the medical professionals. They are trained on how to wear masks and in that case the masks are absolutely doing more good than harm.. They should wear it. The fire can never be put out, but when they fight it they should wear it to protect themselves and others... the general population, not so much.

@dannotdaniel @luckytran

The deaf generally rely a great deal on lip reading, at an in and out burger with high volumn probably most of all.

@ech

I would not ban them in a store if a customer wants to use it.. but as a policy for employees in a customer service setting... well in that setting it makes perfect sense, especially if you want accessibility for the deaf.

@jeffcliff @barney

@TruthSandwich

How does none of this apply? Being accurate is just as important in close quarters as elsewhere... more so due to the risk of collatoral damage... Why would you argue for a less accurate more dangerous weapon just because someone is closer, what is that gaining you?

And I take it you never shot? missing man sized targets at 10 meters is **very** common, particularly under high stress scenarios. When i go to the range if i take the time to aim and and slow and focused I can hit a bullseye at 10 meters no problem... With someone else shooting at me with adrenalin rushing and a slit second to shoot, there is a **very** high chance I will miss a few even at 10 meters (even cops miss under those conditions and they are very well trained)... Now with an AR im much less likely to miss in that scenario.

But again im confused why you feel a less accurate weapon is somehow in my favor just because its closer? What would i be gaining by using it?

@trinsec

@TruthSandwich @trinsec

Good question. The short answer is.. because this is safer than a pistol and will mean fewer people die.

A pistol by its very nature is much less accurate. Even at 10 yards its not hard to miss your target and shoot a bullet into the wall that might kill the old lady next to you.

Hollow-point 0.223 in a ar-15 is going to have a longer barrel and better sight along with a shoulder-rest which makes it far more stable. This means you are far more likely to hit your target and not kill an innocent bystander. With hollow tips penetration damage is negated too.

Of course if pistols were allowed shoulder-rests they could be at least a bit safer.. but of course democrats already made that impossible which over the years has pushed people to AR-15 platforms for close quarters for the added safety.

They make 9mm AR-15 platofrms by the way, that wouldnt be a bad choice either.

@jeffcliff @luckytran

> 1) It's not about 'reducing the spread of germs' it's about 'reducing the spread of COVID specifically'. Which we need to do more of, not less.

What its "about" doesnt mean squat.. what it "is" is all that matters.

Presuming it does good in preventing the spread of COVID, which is doubtful specifically considering their misuse, doesnt change the fact that it can and does spread other diseases when misused. That harm may (and I beleive does) outweigh the benefits.

> 2) Masks are not 'excessive' - what's 'excessive' is people being exposed to other people for long periods of time during a pandemic.

Thats where we simply disagree, given the fairly low effectiveness and even potential harm from mask wearing it doesnt justify the discomfort and potential harm both in spreading other diseases and in terms of harm to the deaf community. It would be like walking around in full hazmat gear.. yea maybe it helps, but it is absurd and not neccesary, its just excessive.

@admitsWrongIfProven @luckytran

> If masks are harmful when used the wrong way (all-day without changing), then better education seems to be the rational choice, while some burger joint forbidding masks won't do real good.

If there is a need for masks that outweighs the harm to the deaf community, then I agree, education is better than banning.

> Furthermore, being in support claiming to be for the deaf community while ignoring that this will hurt those that need the protection from masks (which will either be pressured to not get a doctors note or have trouble getting one, possibly to monetary trobles) concerns me.

Time and time again the official stance is that masks help everyone else and protects them from the wearer, not the other way around. So any argument for masks wrt to at-risk people would require everyone wearing one. That is even greater harm to the deaf community and even more excessive a request. So the policy of not having its employees wear masks makes sense. If you are an at-risk employee you'd need a full respirator to protect yourself at which point im not even sure you could be heard clearly enough to do your job.

> It seems like you dislike everyday mask use, perhaps that could be an ulterior motive?

Yes, and I stated my ulterior motives:

1) if not used properly it tends to cause more harm than good, and despite education efforts no one seems to use them properly.

2) It is immensly harmful to the deaf community.

Given its excessive nature combined with its potential to harm I dont feel the rewards outweigh the harm. That is my ulterior motive.

@trinsec For now, yes, i might buy a 3x flip away magnifier and i may add light weight irons at a 45 degree... but im trying to keep it as light as possible... I also might switch out the picatinny rails in the front for a lighter polymer grip.

I reconfigured my AR-15 for CQC (Close Quarters Combat). I stripped everything off it that adds any weight, including iron sights, and moved to a Sig Sauer MSR red dot reflex.

#Gun #Guns #2A

@gay_yiff Hey just saw your timeline...

So I dont mind posting NSFW content specifically cause it is CW'ed, so that doesnt appear to be a violation.

What worries me is it appears your content is **exclusively** that. We are a STEM instance so there is a requirement people are at least here partly because they want to post about STEM, or socialize with STEM people. That doesnt seem to be the case with your account and I wonder if it wouldnt better be suited on a different instance.

@trinsec @khird

@marcelias Actually I think they have been quite clear on what they meant by this as they have been very consistent in what they ask for.. you may not agree, and thats fine, but we know the ask...

They want all votes to be verified with a proper government issued photo ID in person. So no mail-in votes, and all states must require photo ID verified at the booths.

I personally dont like it because it breaks state sovereignty.. so I am against it. But I wont pretend I dont understand what they mean...

LAWL now this moron things I am lying about my profession.... never mind the fact that the lab I run has me prominently displayed ont heir website and we link to source for the stuff we published...

Amazing how the extreme alt-left sorts just make up things completely detached from reality the second they hear something that adds nuance to their talking points.

What, a, fucking, moron....

@barney

@barney LOL now im lying about my professional accomplishments... Im listed prominently on the website of the lab I run, and we list our publications.... so all your proving is your an idiot who makes acusations without even the slightest effort to validate the nonsense you spew,.. you should be ashamed.

@bonifartius this particular application might be fine with a traditional relational DB... i do want to code it for high load, but that should be easy even with a traditional DB due to a pretty clear seperation between reading and writing

@barney Funny how you actually having addressed either of the points I made, b3ecause you cant because they are well established and accepted by virtually every scientist on this planet... Both my points are undeniable.

1) The use of disposal masks for extended periods of time (more than a few hours) has a lot of risk factors for the spread of disease:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-20692-9

2) The use of masks is harmful tot he interests of the deaf community since they are unable to lip read which is essential for their day-to-day functioning (this one shouldnt even need a source).

But yea... take two very reasonable positions, and turn that into me being republican... what an idiotic white-knight bullshit.

@barney

Whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night

@dannotdaniel

So the mask guideline of a few hours is the one recommended by the CDC for nurses in medical situations. It was the normal guideline before COVID.

During covid there was a mask shortage so they generally recommended to the general public relaxed guidelines and suggested 24 hours max.

But considering these guidelines were chosen particularly in light of a mask shortage I would say the original guidelines, which had years of data to back it, is the better choice.

Anyway here is a study addressing the topic and some relevant quotes showing the short-term nature of disposable masks:

"...demonstrates a noticeable humid air filtering degradation during the first 60 min of use."

"...the practice of wearing an FFR disposable face mask for excessive time is not only uncomfortable but can affect the health of the wearer."

"From a morphological point of view, our results show that using a disposable face mask for several hours, without proper disposal or cleansing, may lead to collecting, growing, and cumulating inorganic as well as organic matter. "

"Our reported data confirm the urgent need to inform the general public about the importance of wearing single-use face masks for shorter periods of time with respect to the current common practice"

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-20692-9
@luckytran

@dannotdaniel @luckytran

Deterioration? Do you mean the fact that masks are usually intended to be worn for a few hours max?

@trinsec I bet you did... it was a topic the deaf community has brought up a lot, and something many people probably didnt think about.