🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@drgeo

https://qoto.org/@freemo/110793938812094757

If I still had a dog she would probably be allowed on the furniture before you!

@girls_can Every ounce of pleasure must be paid with an equal measure of pain :)

I hope it heals up quick!

@josemanuel

Im not sure if i agree on the resurgence of free speech.. but otherwise I agree. the Fediverse was ultra-sensative... some people who wanted more relaxed moderation moved in, they got attacked and "cancelled".. this in turn cause them to lash out by trolling, viscious cycle continues.

@Moon @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey

@Moon

Sure... blocking is not a measure that will completely protect you from bad actors.. but it does go a long way to reduce most of the more casual harassment and thus make ones experience here more usable.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

By not recommending one of the block lists that are abusive.. I can also always change my recomendation as needed if a better block list comes along.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@josemanuel

Yup, many of our users would agree with you, partly because our server policies would attract people who feel the way you do. That said many have had the opposite opinion as you.. its a mixed bag. I think it largely depends on your opinions and ideology, yours are probably less of a target than others.

@coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

I have found blocking unmoderated instances do a pretty good job at significantly reducing the amount of harassment one experiences.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

Thats a huge problem in fediverse blocklists too... I get it there are a lot of blocklists that are fairly abusive in how aggressive they are.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

I also tried to recommend a block list that wasnt too aggressive or ideological... just the instances that obviously are more or less unmoderated.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

Yes I do, because while I dont think servers should force a block list on a user I do think the user should have the option to block and an easy path to do so if thats what they want. If there is a user that wants low-moderated instances blocked they should have that choice and easy access to a block list to accomplish it.

I myself dont use the block list, but I do understand its need for some users.

It is also an attempt to address the usability issue I mentioned earlier while not needing to block at the instance level... a possible middle ground solution.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

On that point I wholly agree. We have never caved to third party pressure in that regard.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

I am kinda suprised how much pleasure cleaning my keyboard and adding new colorful keycaps has added for me... I am enjoying my time at my computer more.

@Moon

I mean, there is a reason you guys are still federated with... but as I said it is getting closer and closer to being impossible to maintain a nearly-open federation policy from a purely usability standpoint... we arent there yet though.

That said i am working on technological solutions.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

I have no issue with people dogpiling if its directly related to the topic, even if they are calling someone an idiot.

We are talking about dog piling that usually has nothing constructive to say and is just word salad of insults most of the time.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

SureI do agree there are levels to this and blocking can be quite excessive.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

You can figure that for yourself by going through my feed if you really care to. That isnt an exercise I need to invest time in since I dont see much value coming from that exercise.

If I actually cared about proving my point that would be a good way to do it. I just dont have the energy to care enough to go through all that.

If you'd like I can start tagging you when dogpiles kick in so you can see them though if you really care.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@coolboymew

It probably doesnt happen to you because you are one of the trolls, or at least, close enough to them (you arent as bad as most which is why i never blocked you)... But generally the people who dont participate in the trolling, particularly as a server, are the ones targeted.

I expiernce this a few times a week personally and as an admin have had quite a few of my users complain about the same problem.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey