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@shuttersparks I know of plenty of people who use it, in fact there are rather popular brands of iron gall advertised specifically for FP, so it must be a rather popular choice.

The main reason to use iron gall is it is perminant with good writing characteristics. Since it is safe in a pen with gold nib there is really no reason not to use it honestly.

That said I have since moved over to pigment and carbon based ink. The carbon inks have better writing characteristics i find. The main disadvantage to pigments is that they tend to stain clear demonstrators where iron gall does not.

@shuttersparks I've used iron gall inks in my fountain pens for decades without an issue.. but yes I suspect that could be what caused an issue here simply due to the steel nib, and I think its fair to say with a reactive metal like steel you should be more cautious about the more aggressive inks that would be fine in a FP made with mor passive materials.

Speedballs are nice if you want dip pen. Not particularly helpful for a pen on the go though. Plus I prefer the convience of a FP as I can write anywhere in my home including on the couch or in bed.

Glass dip pens are nice but useless for most forms of calligraphy.

@shuttersparks I can also say the rusting of jinhao pens was a known issue and I was warned against it. So I know it has happened to others.

Keep in mind this may be 5 years ago at this point. Since then they may have improved the corrosion resistance of their nibs.

@shuttersparks

Its very possible I used Iron Gall ink. I used that in most of my fountain pens at the time.

For the record assuming it is the iron gall ink, it has never ruined a single one of my fountain pens other than the jinhao before. It would definately have been the steel nib that made it rust because it is the only steel nib pen i ever used, since then i moved to precious metal nibs only.

@Quenby Of course kids want power.. you are right that power is in the form of autonomy, but that is power,in fact a rather significant form. Without autonomy you are powerless in the most complete of ways.

I think perhaps what you meant to say is "dominance" specifically to have "dominance over the parent" .. i suspect thats what you mean by power and in that sense I agree, kids dont care about power dynamics.

@shuttersparks Do you not have the problem with rusting? When i first got into flex writing i got a jinhao thinking it would save me a fortune. The thing rusted and i couldnt use it after the first use.

@DaveFernig The issues I am describing are fairly limited to the US.

I have been treated in many european and other non-US countries. While the specific form of abuse I describe here is certainly somewhat unique to the USA I can say with confidence all of the medical infrastructure in europe and much of the world is just as bad, just bad in very drastically different ways. But most of those problems are outside the scope of this post.

@davidtoddmccarty

So we can strike against Trump AND Biden... ok im down where do we meet!

@DaveFernig While that seems accurate im not sure how much of it is training vs the system. The change has been too short term (particularly worse the last few years) for it to be a training issue.

As best I can understand the issue comes about from the FDA and the legal system which has caused them to be unable to treat and act out of fear of law suits. Plus rules out of the FDA seem to strongly discourage prescription drugs.

@DaveFernig seem to have the same problem from older doctors. In fact might be worse from the older generation.

@freemo abuse is a big issue. Less now than 40 years ago but changing medical culture takes time. To the consternation of some senior clinicians (‘they aren’t learning anything useful like we did”) our medical students now spend time training with actor patients. A start but only that and one problem is how we select for entry into medicine. - empathy is well down the list.

@Gustodon

Conservatives a box of gravel, liberals a box of pebbles. Which vox of worthless roxks shall we vote for this time :)

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@ceoln

> I tend to disagree; the fact that 1% of the people in the world control half the wealth seems unjust to me, and it's certainly due to the world's economic structures and institutions.

People being able to keep what they earn and work hard and take the risks on is not unjust.

If i am the only one int he village spending all my time chopping wood and therefore have much more wealth than everyone else its kinda childish and silly for allt he villagers to complain and demand some free wood. go chop your own.

The majority of rich people in the USA started out poor or middle class, there is injustice, but not in the ways you imagine.

@stux

@volkris Sure but its a physical impossibility that they can. Which means its always to the other persons advantage

@ceoln @stux

There are plenty of unjuat aspects. But having ubeven wealth distribution is not caused by injustice if we are talming rich vs poor ratio. There is unjustice when we talk about distribution between some demographics like race.

@ceoln @stux

You said the unjust aspects of the structure, we disagree on that notnif structures are involved.

@ceoln @stux

Well depends what you mean. If you mean the fact that somenpeople have a lot of money, then no. If you mean the fact that money is a bit easier for nonminorities than minorities in any particular society, then yes.

@ceoln @stux

Not at all. They can be indirectly correlated by not causative association.

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