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@ciarin7

I asked you to stop contacting me. Last warning, please go away.

@georgetakei

Gotta love it when you get a moron who doesnt even understand english, and no matter how much you explain it they just hear whatever the hell they want.

@ciarin7

Well thanks, you now proved y point, QED. ? Apparently me explaining it 4 times over AND the dictionary telling you youre wrong and your still clueless...

This is the point you've just proven you are a waste of my time, if you cant even understand the meaning of a simple word clearly explained by the dictionary.

Please do not tag or contact me again, you either are incapable of an intelligent conversation or intentionally arguing in bad faith and refusing to listen.

Again: You are not welcome to contact me again, thank you.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

You keep spewing this nonsense like if you say the same wrong thing enough times it will just become true.

Also kudos on correcting grammar on a very clearly and intentionally nonsensical phrase.... you really are out of touch with the whole topic.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

Unfortunately no, the facts determined **you** are incorrect.. the fact that you keep saying things that an incorrect person would be expected to say just reinforces it.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

Again you clearly dont understand the meaning of the word opinion... When an opinion is formed solely based on facts, it is still an opinion...

You seem to think opinion means "not a fact, just my personal idea i formed on a whim"... thats not the definition of an opinion. I already showed you the definition of an opinion and why an opinion based on fact is still an opinion...

Thus why you keep thinking your disagreeing with me when your not.. you think im saying "its an opinion not a fact" when in reality im saying 'Its an opinion, and an opinion can be a fact"

> you keep claiming it's an opinion.

Yes I do, saying something is an opinion is **not** the same as saying it isnt a fact, as I have said multiple times and you refuse to listen.

@georgetakei

@futurebird Because that wouldnt be the most profitable thing possible. In fact that would be probably one of the least profitable choices a company could make.

@ciarin7

No your doing the thing your saying im saying im doing... im rubber and your glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

Exactly what someone who was wrong would say :)

@georgetakei

@wendinoakland

Thats fair... I can certainly see your perspective here as well.

In my few the only obligation of an employer when faced with a strike is they cant hire replacement workers... I dont see any violation in a company continuing operations during a strike while leaving the strikers positions vacant.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

I only agreed that irony is present. Obviously I dont think you have a particularly good grasp on where and how that irony exists... but we do agree it exists.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

I am sure you think so... and you would be wrong to think that.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

I dont know how many times your going to agree with me and start it with "incorrect"... but here we go again...

> Her show was already on the list of WGA shows, before she decided to bring the show back.

And at what point did I say that wasnt the case?

> Her show is struck based on the rules of the guild, she had WGA writers.

Yup. When the people who compiled the list had to form an opinion on which qualified and which didnt they used the rules of the guild to do so. Since she had WGA writers in the past they decided to add it to the striked list.

> It's not based on opinion, as you erroneously claimed.

My best guess is that your misunderstanding what the word opinion means.

You do realize you can hold an opinion that happens to be fact right? An opinion may or may not be fact or based on fact. While opinions that arent facts will always just be opinions, opinions which are facts, are still opinions, they are fact-based opinions.

Here is the definition fromt he dictionary"

"a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."

Pay close attention to the word "necessarily", clearly showing opinions are still opinions even when they happen to be rooted in facts.

@georgetakei

@wendinoakland

Yes I am the one who mentioned Cancel Culture. My point is what you are describing, namely "bad behavior erases you from the story", is NOT what Cancel Culture is. We would just call that boycotting. Its responsible and when justified what society SHOULD do.

My point is responsible boycotting, as you describe, is distinctly different from Cancel Culture which is where boycotting is using frivilously, irresponsibly, against actors who are not clearly bad actors but nebulous at best, and where such canceling is central to the culture.

Im all for good responsible boycotts, but Cancel Culture, the irresponsible use, is a valid concern and good to call out as well.

Now as i said if this counts as a legit boycott or Cancel Culture is a a matter of opinion.

@georgetakei

@wendinoakland

Bad behavior has consequences, nothing wrong with that. Thats not what the phrase "Cancel Culture" has issue with, boycotting bad actors responsibly is a good thing and should be encouraged, obviously thats not what the term "Cancel Culture" is refering to. The term "Cancel Culture" is when Canceling (boycotts) are both frivilous and have become central to our culture.

Whether this is Cancel Culture vs responsible boycotting is obviously a matter of opinion. But those two concepts are also very different things.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

Holy hell, you are still arguing against fictional things I didnt say....

> Nope, still a fact her show was already on the list of WGA shows and therefore struck.

At no point did I say her show was or was not on the list of WGA shows.

You are literally arguing with a fantasy of something being said that wasnt said, its really annoying.

> What's silly is that several people have attempted to explain to you what cancel culture is but you refuse to accept the correction.

How many wrong people need to say something before I am obligated to accept it as true? The number of people who may disagree with me doesnt really matter when they are all wrong... just like if I got a bunch of Trumpers in here all saying the same nonsense it doesnt make them right either.

> irony

Finally something we agree on.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

> Incorrect, it's a fact. Her show is listed as a struck show, and they will be picketing it.

Yup, they were of the **opinion** that she was in violation, and decided to list the show as a striked show...

The fact that they listed it as striked is fact. It is the strikers **opinion**, and the decision that fueled, that caused them to make that decision.

> ...Not what the unions use to determine which shows are struck shows.

Of course not, they use their opinions to determine what to strike, not mine, duh.

When did I say my opinion is what unions base their decisions on? Its like your arguing against some imagined argument not even being discussed... your arguing against things i didn't disagree with.

> Incorrect. Consequences may include boycotts, but boycotts are not the only consequences when there's a backlash.

This is really getting silly now.. you keep saying you disagree with me, then state a bunch of stuff that in no way disagrees with me.

At no point did I say or even hint, that somehow boycotts are the only consequence when there is backlash... literally this whole comment was just you disagreeing with stuff I never asserted because you didnt bother to read what you disagreed with carefully first.

> Irrelevant

Since you are arguing that a term i used means something other than what it meant, and that understanding terminology is key to accurate communitication, it is very much relevant at this point.

@georgetakei

@ciarin7

> She's crossing a picket line, her show is a struck show. That's why she's being called a scab.

Yes that is the opinion of the strikers it seems. My opinion is that she is perfectly ok with what she did morally and the strikers are wrong to take issue with it. To each their own, we dont have to agree.

> Cancel culture is just a silly way of saying consequences. It's not a real thing, people just want to pretend there's a new wave of mob mentality punishing people, and it's just sometimes people get a backlash for their actions.

No you are thinking of the word Boycott. Cancel Culture is not simply any act of boycotting... It is when **frivilous** boycotts are central to the current culture. This is distinctly different from all acts of canceling someone (the word "Culture" in "Cancel Culture" isnt just there for show).

> It's not new, it's consequences.

Boycotting isnt new.. Cancel Culture is, re:above

@georgetakei

@olives was this meant as a reply to something maybe?

@collin If flights werent so uncomfortable for me id do this... I doubt id enjoy it with how miserable i am on a plane though.