🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@JakeQuokkaMCM

Wait what, that was **MY POINT** did you not even read the whole thread or my image post?

He claimed cogvid-19 right now is exactly the same as before vaccines.... I was mocking that anti-vax nonsense. Obviously (as you point out) the levels are FAR less than they would be if people werent vaccinated. Yet he is claiming its exactly the same as pre-mandates... which is just wrong.

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

@lonelyowl

it is sometimes taught as the gender neutral for gendered things with unknown gender, but this is simply wrong. Some sources will tell you to use "he" or "it" some will give you the correct advice.

@Amikke @jgg

@SocialistStan@mymastadon.link

Never claimed I was... but this anti-vax nonsense about there being no change in COVID levels after the vaccine and mandates is some anti-vax nonsense and deserves to be called out. Not sure how that makes me "special"

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

@SocialistStan@mymastadon.link

When did I say I was too smart for democracy... as the post clearly states I refering to "the smartest people" and not myself.

So what idiocy is this, I never once claimed I was one of the smartest people.

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

@lonelyowl

You dont call them it, that wouldnt be proper english.

The rules in english are is something has gender, but you dont know which gender it is, then you are to use he which is gender neutral. You may also use "they" which has been valid from before modern times too.

We do the same with humans, if you talk about a person but dont know their gender, you should default to a gender neutral "he" or if you prefer to be more explicit "they".

This has always been the english grammar rules.

@Amikke @jgg

@jgg

Why is it more of a pain in modern time? We have gender-neutral pronouns that we can use whenever the gender ones dont provide a utility... Thats how it always worked... not sure why modern times is any different.

@Amikke

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

You are.

The fact that you are trying to discredit a published COVID research scientist who has spent the last two years developing COVID diagnostic tests and promoting vaccination and research on cures I think says it all.

The fact that you lied about it and posted something out of context (anyone reading this see the context screenshot below), kinda proves your anti-vax mentality... especially because your doing it in retaliation to being called out on an anti-vax post.

@Amikke

By the way the act of calling something "he" or "she" when the correct pronoun is "it" is so special and out of the ordinary in english that when someone applies it, say to a ship by saying "she", this is called "personification". It is done to show a closeness or respect to the object. It is never proper english and can be done with any objects. Its just very common among sailors because their life is so closely dependent on the ship keeping them safe.

@jgg

@Amikke

They are... exception gendered languages that gender objects are, as you say, overcomplicated (adds complication with no or minimal utility). In english the gendering is obvious by appearance and thus doesnt add any additional complication.

@jgg

@Amikke

She is not considered proper english for a shit. The proper pronoun for a shit is "it".. so no it does not disagree.

That said, people do sometimes call a ship "she", which is improper, for the poetic reasons I mentioned before. Among people who have particular respect for their ship they usually call it "she" because of the poetic notion that women are treated with more care, compassion, and respect by men than other men... its more of an inside poetic license nod.... The proper gender for a ship in formal english is NOT she though, it is it.

@jgg

Yea i prefer a language that is gendered but the gender matches the reality where objects are always "it"

@Amikke

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

Huh? No you never said that.

@Amikke Ok so you are talking about languages which have mandatory gender for non-gendered things.... ok on that we agree its an overcomplication. But we are talking about english, so that doesnt apply.

All genders in english are it except for things that actually have gender, in which case its the gender... So there is no complication to it, you know somethings gender by looking at it.

It just has the added benefit that when we want to be poetic we can call somethign that should be an "it" a "she"... it isnt complicated because there are no rules, you can just do it to sound nice. Its not like german where scissors are male all the time.

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

Did you or did you not say that COVID levels are exactly where they were before the government mandates? So yes, you claimed that despite the vaccines levels are unchanged, which is complete bullshit anti-vac nonsense.

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

You literally posted claiming that despite everyone vaccinated there is absolutely no improvement to the COVID levels compared to pre-vax.... sounds pretty damn anti-vax to me.

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

For all those following along attached is the context where it is clear i was parroting back what he said to demonstrate the idiocy of his claim.

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

Wow great to see you both took it out of context and are lying to everyone... I notice you intentionally left off the link so they wouldnt see the full context.

For the record I was mocking you for being anti-vax and claiming the quarantines, vaccines, and mandates had no effect on current COVID levels.

Funny how you left that part out...

@Amikke

> sure, every overcomplication of a language has the ability to be more expressive.

If it serves a function in expressing certain ideas more accurately then it has utility. Therefore it wouldnt be an **over**complication (that is when something is complicated without benefit)... what you meant to say is an increase in complication.

@Amikke I disagree, genered language has far more utility in the arts than non-gendered language as it has the ability to be more expressive in more ways.

@BetaCuck4Lyfe Yup, pretty sure anyone who repeats what you said, like I did, will ultimately look like a "fucking dumbass".... seems you learned the point of this interactions afterall, wonderful!