🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@nosat

Ahh good point. I hadnt considered that, you are right, **are** a brain dead moron

@BetaCuck4Lyfe

@darnell

Even a court of law wont hold someone accountable for their actions during psychotic episodes.

I am sure you mean well. But honestly this is by far the most harmful thing I have ever heard you say,, that you think people expierncing severe mental illness are in control and accountable to it.

But I guess there is nothing else to say. I guess I just hope youll change that attitude before it does too much harm. Again I know you mean well so I have some hope of that.

@realcaseyrollins

@Gina IIRC that was your dream, to work remote and traveling is a nice bonus.

Congrats, sounds like you are living the life!

Me? Hmm, not sure how far to go back. When did we speak last? Did we talk since i came back to america recently?

@timorl

That alone would be quite damning.

That said even if i review it and decide I think he is likely guilty, it doesnt justify the UK parliment to punish him as if he is guilty before a court of law has found him guilty... Its a scary overstep to say the list and wrong.

@bonifartius

@timorl

I'm probably still missing a lot... So far all I hear are the accounts of the witnesses. While they will be heard and considered in court (As they should be)... I cant find, as of yet, any evidence beyond that.

One woman said she visited a rape center after the incident... that sounds like it could be a piece of evidence... has that been confirmed or do we just have her word on it.

Any other evidence i have overlooked in my quest search?

@bonifartius

@timorl

Thats fair, I dont remember hearing about rape in the hearing when i watched parts of it.

@bonifartius

@timorl

Good info, thanks.

Which cases did he loose exactly? That seems weird that he would loose a csae for rape and not go to prison.

@bonifartius

@bonifartius I think you meant to send me a picture of something underneath the parliament? Thisis just a picture of an ordinary parliament session.

@ceoln

> Also no. This wasn’t a vote to pass the bill, it was just a rule vote to advance it toward consideration. The bill would still have to have survived amendment, passed an actual vote, gone through reconciliation, and so on.

I didnt say it was a vote to pass the bill, you missed my point.

I said if there was no independent thought... this means we are talking about a scenario where on **Every** vote democrats vote against GOP bills and GOP votes for... no exception.

Since (though you left out) in my quote i specifically talked about a scenario where there is a GOP majority, that means it would have been garunteed to pass every single one of those stages you listed

That means the rule to advance it forward would have been a garunteed pass

that means no matter what amendments are added, pass

That means the actual vote garunteed pass...

reconcilation, garunteed pass.

As I said literally the **only** way it couldnt pass would be either if the GOP lost majority, or if some people fromt he party dissent. Independent thought would literally be required if there was even a chance to stop such an evil bill.

@tiffanycli

After seeing how he handled tesla the last thing I want is that man having access to uploading data to my brain.

@thor Wait, there are people on the internet that arent mildly irritating?

@TruthSandwich

If that was their motivation (dont know myself) that is a pretty lame reason.

@ZuriBella@toot.community

@TruthSandwich

> What complicates this is that there’s more than one way two instances can be hostile towards each other. Sure, there’s full defederation, which is relatively rare, but there’s also silencing. And there’s more than one type of that, as far as I understand it.

This is true, there are other ways. We measure that a bit indirectly using another metric that gets around it. Its called insularity. It basically doesnt look at federation in this case but actual communiction. It looks to see how diverse the users from once instance are at communication with and following users from other instances. An instance which has followers across many different instances has lower insulatiry.

Even when we measured insularity last I checked QOTO was ranked extremely high.

> It’s one thing for an individual user to block me, but we have cases like sdf.org, which have silenced me for the entire server. I can see their toots but nobody on that instance can see mine. And, no, they did not respond to my complaints, because why would they?

Silencing you as an individual i cant speak to, I dont know how well spread that is. But sdf as a server doesnt block QOTO and as I pointed out if they or other servers silenced us it would show up through the insularity metric.

@ZuriBella@toot.community

@TruthSandwich

Sorta, we are talking about slighting different things and its important to explain i guess.

I talked about federation footprint rather than "blocked" for a reason, because remember its a two way street.

For example Stux's instance blocked a great many servers. I dont know the exact count, but just to throw out an arbitrary numbers lets say it was 200. On top of that Stux's instances is currently blocked by some number of instances, lets say 50. That would mean a total of 250 instances where federation is never going to be possible

QOTO on the other hand encourages our users to select which block lists to pull in (and we provide some for that purpose). So the server itself doesnt directly block anyone, we enable our users to curate that. So our block list is 0. Now lets assume twice the servers blocked us and we 100 servers blocking us. That means despite having twice the blocks we are only defederated with 100 servers, less than half of Stux's.

Now to complicate this a bit further its important to point out that the number of servers that block you is actually a poor measure. A proper measure would be to weight those servers by the number of users they have. So your really seeing how many **users** can see you, not servers.

The overwhelming majority of servers that block QOTO are very small instances with less than 10 people. Obviously there are a few larger ones, but nothing too big. This was actually exploited against us once where a bunch of 1-user servers were created and blocked us to make it look like we were heavily blocked when we werent.

Anyway when you take all this into account and actually check the federation footprint (which is a measure of how many users can see you, which is the only measure of value) then QOTO is quite high on the list.

@ZuriBella@toot.community

@ceoln

> It is not 210+ Republicans who are threatening to remove McCarthy if he puts forward anything that will pass with Democratic votes. It is a specific nasty subset of the house GOP, and the votes of those 5 members on the Defense appropriations bill rule were part of the same overall movement.

Thats fair, you'd have to quantify the actual number... but either way this is pretty irrelevant to my point and simply a tangent anyway.

@georgetakei

@ceoln

> There was no indication whatever in your comment that it was entirely about that one sentence in the OP, and not about everything else the OP said. But okay.

Originally in my first comment i didnt explicitly state that. But my comment only stated that while the GOP was a piece of shit and i in no way give them praise, that this one property, independent thought, is something the Dems could stand to adopt rather than attack.

I made no attempt to address any other aspect of the post, which should have been the hint

That said as you continued to try to push to the other aspects of the post I did many many times try to make it clear what I was discussing.

That said, the fact that you didnt understand that was the point is understandable, miscommunications sometimes happen (even if something is said more than once), and thats ok. Not going to hold it against you. Just glad that that is clarified now.

> Their independence even on that one vote was in the direction of evil, in the sense that they voted against the rule because it did not make enough cuts.

"because it" that is intent, not direction... The "because" for something is your reason, the desired effect. It is not the direction, the actual effect the action is headed in... which we both agreed was positive (blocking the bill)

> The ultimate effect of that attitude is most likely to be negative, even if it had a small positive effect in this one specify case. The larger impact is the more important.

Well "attitude" is intent. I never claimed anything about their intent or if that intent would ultimately lead to good or bad... Again we are talking action, and actual results..

So yea their intent, i agree, likely long term will have largely negative effects.

But their action, which only came about due to their willingness for independent action, was positive, regardless of what effects other things that were not their action (like their intent) might have.

> I don’t think we agree, in that you think (or you have said things that I interpret to mean) that independent thought is a good thing even in bad people; that a bad person who is an independent thinker is better than a bad person who isn’t. I don’t believe that, myself.

No i did not say independent thought in a bad person is a good thing... i choose my words **very** carefully, ever word i pick is very important when i say things like that.

What I said was that independent thought in the context of a group which one elects to be a part of, is a good quality to have. I stated this is because bad people will elect to join groups of other bad people. So independent thought gives the possiblity of change where group think garuntees exclusvely evil behavior.

I also pointed out independent thought in an evil person will result in evil actions regardless of if their in a group or not. So while it has the advantaged of opening up to the possibility of change, it will not produce a better person on its own. However when combined with other good qualities like morality, it will.

@georgetakei

@ZuriBella@toot.community

QOTO actually has one of the largest footprints in the entire fediverse. In other words we are federated with more servers than most instances (last i checked we were in the top 10 in terms of federation footprint, though i think closer to top 20 these days).

So if your concern is being heard by the most people, then we would be a good fit there. Keep in mind you will still find servers that block us, but overall we are less blocked than most.

@TruthSandwich