🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@futurebird Are you an etymologist?

@sergeant I moved away from brave to librewolf at the start of this. The reason i moved away from brave is because it has been broken on wayland for months (you cant open dialog boxes like save boxes)... moved to librewolf which fixed that problem but is now broken in other ways.. ill probably move back to a chrome fork, maybe brave, but ill need to find some way to fix that like using an old version or something I dunno.

@ilinamorato

HAHAHA!

@darnell

@EverydayMoggie

Thats kind of hilarious, and probably true... sadly that may be something that saves his ass from prosecution however.

@darnell

@jrdepriest

> I live with a high risk person in a red state that defied mask mandates. We've avoided infection by never leaving the house. It's exhausting.

Understandable. It is a serious and scary disease. As a research scientist who worked on COVID for years I can relate, its exhausting constantly being around it or being scared.

> I want this taken seriously.

I assure you as far as the CDC goes it **is** taken seriously. Its just that most people dont know enough to really judge if it is, so you just get media hype... As someone on the inside I can assure it is.

> I want people to know it isn't over.

We know, the general public knows... The CDC and scientists always knew from day one it was **never** going to be over. It is here, it will be here forever, or at least until there is a radical change in technology... but its not going anywhere, we knew that very early on.

That said I do agree the general public may know its here, but may be irresponsible about it at times, and thats a valid complaint.

> I do not trust my neighbors to be honest about symptoms or to bother with home tests.

Thats fair... but giving them some arbnitrary and made up isolation period would put you at FAR more risk.. not trusting your neighbors isnt solved by giving them false and dangerous medical advice.

> I'm angry about it and the government has done a terrible job assuaging our fears.

I guess this depends largely on what you mean. But you wont get any argument from me that the government has fucked up many times in many ways. But giving **correct** medical advice on how long to isolate was certainly not one of them.

@LALegault

@jrdepriest

Huh, No thats not true, we went with something that works better and is more accurate... you isolate until you pass your at-home covid test... since there is no answer (not even one that errs on the side of caution)... you may have covid for any amount of time, so there is not number.. the most accurate, safest,a nd the one that errs on the side of caution is, testing.. and thats what they did. That was the right decision.

@LALegault

@darnell A bit worried Trump will use that to get out due to incompetance of his lawyer (it is a thing)... even if not while I want trump to be found guilty I also want it to be fair so people wont cry foul... so not happy to hear this.

@Teri_Kanefield Excellent objective and learned info.. thanks. You earned a follow.

@LALegault

Sorry to hear your joke bombed then.. definitely needs a lot of work.

@LALegault Sure..

My point was to answer your confusion about why there isnt a fixed period for isolation, and why it is because of our better understanding of the virus...

Your turn.

@LALegault Right cause now we dont guess we use actual tests to find out. Reason being is there is no way to know how long you need to isolate since the virus doesnt have a fixed period.

Was there a point or question other than that?

@voidabyss

> I didn’t set anything up, this is a classic straw-man argument you’re making up.

You defining the rules of engagement:

https://qoto.org/@voidabyss/111167763581276244

Me pointing out their stupid:

https://qoto.org/@voidabyss/111167763581276244

> I made the claim that the master race ideology has European origin

No, you claimed it was **purely** of european origin (in other words **exclusively** white)

> I still stand with that statement, because I can bring you many quotes from so many prominent white European Elite(Philosophers, politicians, rules, writer, etc) that make claim.
>
> I challenge you bring quotes from prominent Elite from North Africa, middle eat, south America, that make that claim.
> I truly believe that the master race Ideology is **purely** European origin.

As is **Very** clear here the point of debate was **not** if white europeans are racist, I concede thatpoint many times and never once disagreed... As I pointed out and the point you yourself claimed was that it was **purely** of european origin. Something you absolutely failed to prove and were quite clearly disoproven on.

> I was planning to bring quotes from prominent European leaders, philosophers promoting that ideology. I didn’t yet. I just linked to Wikipedia which gives a good introduction to this subject.

Good thing you didnt waste your time doing that because it would have done nothing to advance your argument since 1) it was never in question that white europeans are racist and 2) no matter how many racist quotes you have of white people it does nothing to prove it is **exclusively** white, so you would have wasted your time, especially seeing as this was disproven.

> I read this more like CYA, then a valid argument against white supremacy.

At no point have I made **any** attempt at an argument against white supremecy.. In fact you have said this like a dozen times and every time I have explicitly told you I didnt disagree with this...

Why do you keep insisting on arguing against ghosts of arguments you fabricate and I never said?

> I don’t make or engage with dishonest arguments.
>
> White supremacy stems from the master race ideology which has European origins, that pretty much sums up the discussion.

Keep telling yourself that. Literally everything here is not just a dishonest argument, its **over the top** dishonest.. you keep fabricating an argument I didnt say, and then argue against it, and then cry foul when your called out on it and just keep doing it.

This is probably one of the more intellectually dishonest conversations I've ever had.. the only ones that might come close is your anti-vaxx posts which thankfully you've calmed down on.

@Runyan50

Yea he was certainly one of the biggest figures in US history... no doubt.

@realcaseyrollins

That tracks, ill give him a pass on that one.

@georgetakei

@realcaseyrollins

For reference here is a video of the clip of Trump and a picture of the disabled man. Keep in mind the reporter, as usual, is biased here, so best if we are going to question the account we ignore the reporters comments and stick to trumps...

That said, re-watching this it seems pretty clear he is mocking the reporters disability with his gestures.

https://youtu.be/PX9reO3QnUA?si=ea08Oe3BYzuNi769&t=16

@georgetakei

@realcaseyrollins

Willing to hear the counter argument for that.

When i saw the video he seemed to make motions that mocked the man and his specific disability (his motions were similar to that of the disabled man)... and it isnt motions he makes when he mocks or talks about other people...

Whats the counter argument?

Bear in mind even if we find excuses for 20% of what he does that still leaves the other 80% so I dont needt o rely on any one thing being true as long as most or some is true its enough for me to dislike him as a president and a business man.

@georgetakei

@beatnikprof Wouldnt be surprised if this is true.. But the journalistic integrity of vox is so horrible I dont expect anything to be "fact" when i see their branding... so im with ya, this can go either way.

@realcaseyrollins

Evil people who are cruel and abusive to other deserve to loose everything.

Trump is a man who has used his power to mock a crippled person, deny black people homes specifically and explicitly for being black, lied and stolen and cheated. When bad people loose it reminds me there is fairness in the world and that makes me happy.

@georgetakei