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@chip I'm at 12th and shunk... ill try to stop by at another one if I hear about it.

@chip I am in philly. sadly i wont be able to make it but hope you have fun! Want a place to stop by afterwards and smoke/drink feel free to stop by my house in south philly

@cstross

As an expert on this topic I'd like to say what your saying is more or less correct.

LLM are, as you say parots, but despite the minimizing language that is still hugely powerful. What makes it so powerful is when you ask it to parrot back on some topic you can do so by telling it what audience to limit itself to. So by asking it to "speak as a scientist" then it parots back what your typical scientist might say on the subject.

While this has limitations, and it certainly isnt AI in the sense that it is human-like, it is a vastly powerful tool within the context of what it can do.

@realcaseyrollins

> The gender definitions for woman seem to work against your implied take quite well actually.

Nope. I can say into the ether that men shouldn’t be in womens’ bathrooms, that’s my opinion.

Sure, well according to the english language they arent. Those people you are calling men are women according to the dictionary.

What I think you mean to say is "Access to bathrooms should be divided by sex, not gender"... which is fine, by highly oppressive to people who have DNA that differs from their genitals (some of whom are born that way and many of whom dont even know).

> it would be stupid for me to use language that’s incongruent with the language that the other participants in the conversation understand.

Thats why we have dictionaries. We all agree we are going to use english,a nd the dictionaries are our common agreement. Your the one who has derailed the conversation by several messages to argue that your semantic use of the word, which disagrees with the dictionary should be the one we all use. This didnt help the conversation at all because me by strictly using the english terms could be understood without all of these mental gymanistics to form a euphemism so people feel less bad about people they care about who beat children. We all gotta justify it somethow I guess.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@realcaseyrollins

Dictionary definition of a woman: "an adult female human being."

The relevant definitions for female:

"having a gender identity that is the opposite of male"

"having a quality (such as small size or delicacy of sound) sometimes associated with the female sex"

The gender definitions for woman seem to work against your implied take quite well actually.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@realcaseyrollins

> Your language here presumes us all to believe that spanking someone is the same as beating them, which nobody else here believes.

Beating is defined as "a punishment or assault in which the victim is hit repeatedly."

Spanking is defined as "an act of slapping, especially on the buttocks as a punishment for children."

Its is very clear from the definitions a spanking is a form of beating in which the beating typically occurs on the buttox.

What you probably mean to say is "A violent aggressive beating is far worse than a less violent and less aggressive beating on the butt"

So on that we agree, less violence is better... its still deplorable and disgusting. If you are inflicting pain on a child and expected physical pain inflicted intentionally by a loved one is anything less than reprehensible then we are at odds.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@niclas

Its so surprising, who would think that having people beat you might cause you to have issues...

Like at some point someone went "Oh the kid has learning troubles, have you tried beating him a bunch until the learning problems go away"?

I cant fathom how anyone can be rational and compassionate and think beating a child or anyone is going to result in a positive change.

@realcaseyrollins @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@realcaseyrollins

Yea me and my girlfriend talk about kids... so it may be in my near future (next few years)

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@realcaseyrollins

I do not.. though im not sure having a kid makes you any more qualified.. .maybe after the fact if you have well adjusted successful kids.. but just having kids alone, not so much.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@sj_zero

Well I would say that its not just that we are having this conversation, because a parent who beats their kid might also engage in a simiilar conversation, partly so they can lie to themselves (not that they would know it)...

I'd sayt her eason i can be comfortable we are all thoughtful parents in that regard is actually because, in additional to being here and talking we also dont beat our children.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @realcaseyrollins

@youronlyone @gohugoio

If you need any help let me know. It seems fairly stable for me right now. I have 3 sites running it successfully for a little bit now

@realcaseyrollins

As I said, they arent hitler... but yea you cant beat any child, least of all your own, and not be a seriously disturbed person.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@realcaseyrollins

Because we arent talking about conscious motive for one, and for two, you simply can not be a rational well reasoned parent who doesnt have emotional issues and still beat your child.

Thats like saying "well how can you know hitlers motives"... well I dont need to to know he is messed up in the head and has issues to even act that way.

Parents who beat their kids arent hitlet, but they are similarly fucked up, no parent could be their kid and not be

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@realcaseyrollins

Of course not. The problem is any parent who beats their kid that is ultimately why. Most parent would never admit it, and as usually happens they use something as an excuse (like religion or disciplin or whatever)... but the truth is, they are taking the easy way out as parents, just hit the kid still he stops doing what you dont want...

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @sj_zero

@sj_zero

I mean thats what most parents do, they take their frustration out on their kids by beating them, call it disciplin so they can lie to themselves and not feel guilty when they beat their child out of frustration.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @realcaseyrollins

@sj_zero

While I obviously agree that kids need very different ways to learn, the idea that beting them might be an effective child rearing tool for **any** child just sounds bonkers to me.

NO child is going to learn best from being beat, none.. . The few who might appear to be raised well will have serious underlying issues that scar them for the rest of their lives. How aware of it they are is another matter.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @realcaseyrollins

@AmpBenzScientist

And by applying basically logic that means pleasure is weakness entering the body.... bring it!

@realcaseyrollins @niclas

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