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@freemo that's actually not often an issue unless you're in a tech-support role or something where you're working on lots of different people's computers every day. If it's a computer you use enough to have your own account on, you can save your preference for Dvorak there. Then it's just a case of building the muscle memory so you can touch type properly - the physical keys will say QWERTY but you'll type on them as if they were Dvorak.

For background, I've typed exclusively Dvorak for essentially my entire adult life, but I never learned QWERTY properly to begin with - at my school, the accelerated program taught slideshow/spreadsheet skills instead of typing. I guess they assumed that we'd be bigshots and all have secretaries or something, but that was no longer true when I got to college, and, being the nerd I am, I decided to teach myself to touch-type Dvorak. My method was to have the keymap overlaid on the screen and not switch around my keycaps, so I wouldn't develop hunt-and-peck habits the way I had with QWERTY. First week I relied on the overlay, second week I used my memory and trial-and-error when I forgot, and then my third week was on this horrible ancient system where backspace cleared the whole damn line instead of the most recent character, so it was really punishing to make a mistake.

@khird also thanks for the well thought out and helpful response. Much appreciated.

@freepeoplesfreepress That sounds like a wonderfully valuable experience. Good luck..

I agree, i too will not switch to Dvorak at this time.

@nq4t Oh the cops know exactly what to do... they are just too lazy to do it cause it would be so much work.

@freemo depends. There are certain times it can be an obstacle. For example, the undo/cut/copy/paste commands are now scattered across the keyboard. Some software that uses keys based on position rather than letter value (e.g. WASD keys if you're a gamer) works automatically, some needs to be configured, and some just leaves you stuck with unusable keybinds. Importantly, early in your boot process (BIOS password, disk encryption) you'll still have to type in QWERTY because the computer doesn't know anything about your keyboard settings until after you've decrypted that information.

It will restrict your options for customising your keyboard, because many keycap sets have different profiles on a per-row basis, so keys that are in a different row between QWERTY and Dvorak will stick out. Obviously you'll touch-type most of the time, but sometimes you run into situations where you have one hand on the keyboard and one on the mouse, and you'll need to find a key with your left hand for which only your right hand has muscle memory.

Also, if you swipe-type on your phone, some of Dvorak's strengths become weaknesses. Alternating fingers turns into a lot of back-and-forth. Concentrating heavily used keys onto the homerow means you have to be very precise, and even then there are a lot of ambiguous words. For example, swiping S-O-T could be:
- soot
- snot
- snout
- stout
- shot
- shoot
- shout
and that's if you aim perfectly. If you miss by one key and type S-E-T there's a whole different set of words. The poor autocorrect can only do so much for you.

@khird yea i figured some of these concerns,.. the bigger issue for me is once you learn dvorak anytime you are away from your home keyboard youll have to use qwerty and now likely going to make a lot of mistakes as you fight muscle memory... to me thats the biggest deterrant.

I did see a cool keyboard once where the keys were little LCD screens so the key mappings would show up dynamically as the kayboard switches... cool idea but doesnt really fix the problem.

@lonelyowl

for-profit = any organization which has not registered as a non-profit.

monetization = Owners seek to make money off the news organization.

To put it another way, a company where there are no owners making a profit off its success. The only way people make money is through their salary, not as a share of profits.
@lilithsaintcrow

@freepeoplesfreepress I think that would just mean me and you would be slower on dvorak at first bbut eventually would be better... ITs mostly a question of if its worth it. You might get a few % faster typing but you pay for it with being unable to type fast for months AND being crippled should you ever be traveling and need touse an ordinary keyboard, which now you will probably be worse at.

@nq4t do you actually have the dual band AC750 usb dongle? It will only reach those speeds with the matching dongle as it does a drick where it connects to more than one channel (something a standard wifi dongle cant do)

@lilithsaintcrow

News should never be monitized and no one should trust or read news that is for-profit. For profit news has a tendency to publish stories designed to get readers as the priority rather than prioritizing objective facts.

@realcaseyrollins A tool similar to cp but far more effecient and robust. It allows you sync the files between directories in a way that is aware of some nuance like symlinks, dates (prevents recopying) and mount points.

@faraiwe

Ahh the good ol' logical fallacy of relative privation ... yea thats a pretty horrible argument against fascism (and there are plenty of good ones!)

This resteraunt i am trying to order from has "Chicken Parm", "Chicken parmigano" and "chicken Parmesan" as three separate menu items..... WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!?

@admitsWrongIfProven

> Well, then you are for inefficiency? I don’t get it.

No the opposite, giving everyone a fixed amount of a resource is ineffecient as it doesnt have market pressures which optimize the cost of a service and quality.

While I do support fixing the healthcare problem around the world if we gave it to everyone and forced them to have it then the quality and cost of service has no pressure. If you arent competing for customers then you have no motivation to lower costs to draw in customers and/or improve the service.

This is seen in healthcare in much of europe where time to care can be abysmal to the point of causing people (like myself) to get surgery that isnt needed due to easier and cheaper treatments being too slow to be practical.

> With this, i get a vibe that you seem to define “get it” as some kind of service, not money.

Both money and service. Free money has all the same market pitfalls as free services. Free money devalues money and ultimately drives inflation requiring ever more free money. It doesnt solve the problem, it makes the problem worse. We want to make it so people are skilled and dont need the money and actually contribute by generating wealth in exchange for thevalue they get back.

> If you want to do away with money based society, who am i to tell you to stop?

Nothing wrong with money, as long as it isnt free.

> It sounds a bit like you love the “free market” tool so much, everything looks like a nail. It’s just not applicable everywhere.

Nope the key is understanding your tools and its limits. I have pointed out cases where free markets dont work (health care is one of them in fact but thats a bit nuanced).. But even in cases where free markets dont work that doesnt mean you just print money and give it away. Solutions tend to be more nuanced.

> And providing for who needs it is an absolute basis for me while we do have enough. Anything else is unethical.

Never disagreed with that. I said we dont give it away for free and to everyone. I am perfectly ok giving it to the people who need it **conditionally**. Free food if you cant afford it, but only if you are willing to also get a free education so you only need help temporarily.

@dukepaaron

Oh its simple: "Beat that jew" = antisemitism

"Beat that israeli" = antizionism :)

@admitsWrongIfProven

> Stuff guaranteed by the state as a minimum is not subject to any market competition

Right which i s exactly what I am saying, since these things cant fall under market pressures, which can improve the quality and cost of the service, we should be reluctant as providing them to everyone, as opposed to just the poor who cant afford it.

> It is a guaranteed minimum, and all you could do is see that only those that need it get it.

Which is why I am saying it shouldnt be a garunteed minimum, it should be viewed as something you get only if you cant afford the minimum, if you can afford the minimum then you dont get it unless you pay for it. You are explaining exactly why universal minimums for everyone is a bad idea

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