🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@szczur

LGBP is a more complete version so I think ill go with that anyway.

@m

Hahah ferll fair I guess.

@darth

@timorl

> Ooof, you should be careful with that, LGB is mostly used by transphobes who want to divide the movement.

I think you know by now I judge an idea by its own merit, not its association with any one group or not.

> non-insignificant way a descriptor of a political movement/group that has shared political interests,

I have no problem combining the acronyms when the context makes sense to do so . If I am speaking of something that actually has combined relevance to both I can always say LGBP+TICN and then otherwise leave them seperate when i am talking specifically about orientation vs gender.

> Other than the political connection there is also the fact that gender and sexual attraction are pretty strongly connected for most people, so it even makes sense to lump them together from a purely categorization perspective.

Sure, plenty of times the two groups make sense to talk about collectively, just as often it makes sense to talk about one or the other. Ultimately which of the two, or both, that might be used will depend on context. As it should.

> If you dislike the acronym then “gender and sexual minorities” is a pretty neutral way of referring to the group,

Its not that I dislike the acronym per se. Itis that it 1) includes terms which have no useful meaning (queer) and really have no relevance in most context and 2) it is so generalized as to be less useful than being able to have the means properly categorized in a semantic way.

So the quote you offer simply doesnt address number 2 and defeats the purpose.

> Oh, and being intersex isn’t in any way about gender expression

Absolutely is for **much** of intersexed conditions, though you are right sometimes it is sex and not gender.

For example Androgen Insensitivity Syndrom is an intersex condition that directly effects your bodies expression of gender. By contrast Klinefelter syndrom effects both how your gender is expressed (effects yoru genitals, body, body hair, height, etc) and yoru sex (dna).

The only real difference is that intersex is clearly not a choice WRT to gender expression whereas the other ones are choices in gender expersssion.

> and being trans and being a crossdresser are about gender expression in quite different ways.

Very different for sure, but still gender expression all the same. Obviously again we go back to context, if we are talking about gender in such a way that the distinction between these groups is needed, then that can be expressed on a case by case basis, as it should be.

@freepatriot Dont worry if the brits are any indiciation they would be more than happy to take the cops guns too.

@darth I did not, and that sounds like a management nightmare.

@darth Thats because they bothered to teach you a less useful language first, they should have just started you out on english and left it there :)

::ducks harder::

@darth

We already have that, its called english :) ::ducks::

@darth I wouldnt really know how your culture or language would play into this at all.

Queer doesnt exist, its just a made up word with no meaning or utility.

Trans isnt a sexual orientation so it doesnt belong along side other orientations.

Therefore from now on I think im going to just refer to it as "LGB" which ill use for discussions about orientation. It might make sense to do "LGBP" to include pansexuals/poly people, as that too describes orientation.

Then maybe "TICN" for gender expression (Trans, Intersex, Crossdresser, and Nonbinary).

I think ill just start dropping these in conversations and use each distinctly different. The LGBTQ+ designation never really made much sense.

Then again maybe jsut "non-cis" and "non-straight" might just be more straight forward. But less likely to engage in useful conversation.

@darth Obviously id support moving to metric despite my complains simply because its an easier path to standardization.

@peterdrake If the old guy wanting to bring back trains didnt spend the bulk of his career trying to keep segregation alive I'd likely be all with ya.

I have literally tolerance for people as blatantly racist as he has shown himself to be.

@darth Sure i get that. But we are talking about survival here not preference.

Chances if its within 0 to 100C your not going to die.. outside of that range without proper protection or fluids you very well may.

@darth 60F to maybe 80F is the ideal comfort zone.. but chances are you wont die below 60F :)

@OccuWorld

"Greedflation" not this conspiracy theory nonsense again.

We knew when we shut down the economy for as long as we did it would destroy the economy, economicsts said as much.

We also knew when Trump engaged in massive QE that it would prevent the short-term economic crash but replace it with massive inflation and long-term harm...

Here we are seeing the exact consequences every expert knew and predicted, and yet despite that people are coming up with all sorts of nonsense to find an excuse that is anything but actually admiting lockdowns cause massive harm.... come on people this one isnt even subtle.

@darth Neither freezing brine or freezing water makes sense as a reason to pick either system. They may be how the system is defined, but not necessarily what we consider in selecting it.

The fact is fareinheight coincides with human expiernce of temperature much better than celsius. F has 0 to 100 and anything outside of that range is more or less lethal to a human without protections and fits nicely within the human range of temp, unlike C which doesnt really align well at all.

Seems like what scientists want to use should be the least of our worries, it should be what is best suited for your average person, and I'd argue that is more so F than C.

@bonifartius yea text highlighting in color is a thing if your into that.

All in all ive been pretty happy with it. I had first gen from this company from many years ago i used right up until today. The only issue i had with the old one was that the battery would drain even when off after a few weeks. But this new one has no issues.

@darth this comparison never made sense to me. Who cares when water freezes, unless your dealing specifically with water that seems like a horrible way to measure temperature for a human. As for the date scale.. the us males the most sense as it starts with the least number of cardinaly (month 12) and progresses in increasing cardinality.

the better argument for metric honestly is order of 10 prefixes, thats really the only solid argument for the metric system as superior, and its a damn good one.

I will just keep using "kilomile" and "centinch" and get the best of both wolds :)

@carnage4life That sounds like a horrible approach.

At this rate id be pretty happy to just cut the EU off from the rest of the internet and call it a day.