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@LouisIngenthron Wouldnt be the first time i was the victim of bad journalism ::shrug::

@volkris Sure but a judges ruleings need to be in line witht he constitution. They do have power outside the courtroom butnot when the exercise of that power is a violation of 1A.

@jenny_wu

If a law is what grants the powert to the judiciary then its a violation.

Obviously I do agree with the general consensus here that directly intimidating a witness goes beyond free speech of course. My issue is not with him going to jail for legit threats, in fact I'd **want** that. My issue is that the judge talked about it being legitimate to send him to jail for saying "rot in hell", to me that feels like a violation. Even if we can argue legally it isnt, it should be.

@LouisIngenthron @realcaseyrollins @robryk

@LouisIngenthron agreed but the article has a jusge specifically saying its an option to jail hin over the "rot in hell" comment

@robryk

We already have rules and standards for this. A call to violence is illegal and must meet the following criteria:

(1) the advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action, and (2) is likely to incite or produce such action.

@jenny_wu

@realcaseyrollins I dunno their motivations. I know judges do this all the time, so to me its an issue that isnt too specific to Trump. The reason it seems worse with trump is he actually tends to violate it.

I do suspect the judges are biased against him just because he is obnoxious and a very hard guy to like. Judges should be better than that, but I suspect that has more to do it than an intentional plot to keep him out of the presidency. I mean, he has a laundry list of reasons to be sent to jail none of which should be him saying "I hope he rots in hell"

@jenny_wu Threatening people is illegal with or without a court order. If he said "this man should be murdered" then I would agree with you. But "he should rot in hell", no thats not even a threat.

@jenny_wu Actually Amendments literally do override the constitution, thats their point.

I am really mixed on this one: rawstory.com/trump-in-jail/

On the one hand seeing Trump in jail would please me greatly. On the other I'm left asking how a judge has the right to restrain free speech at all. saying someone should "rot in hell" outside of court and having that land you in jail seems like a huge violation.

@AmpBenzScientist hahah. I'm more of a picklock man myself :) Explosive picklocks that is.

@jimvernon

Reality doesnt care about my comfort, and no I wouldnt "still be the worst" just with company. One of the worst doesnt imply you are equally as worst as the worst. Stop trying to twist everyones word you disagree with to be right, it doesnt help your case. Least of all with people like me who actually lean left and vote left (usually). But with the way the left has been acting this year im already forced to go third party thanks to the left acting like they are in this thread. I simply cant support this level of toxicity and childishness.

@MoiraEve @georgetakei

@DaveFernig

A bit of both. How is that relevant to a poor person who happens to be lazy and thus stuck in poverty?

@lonelyowl @kilroy_was_here

@jimvernon

Saying someone is the worst means no one else can be worse. Saying someone is one of the worst implies there are worse but he is among the top percentile... huge difference. In one case arguing "so what about x isnt he worse" is valid, but with "one of" such statements arent valid.

This they had to manipulate what i said for their own response to make sense. Yea it makes a huge difference.

@MoiraEve @georgetakei

@lemongin We are in for quite a few brutal seasons of all sorts of manner over the next decades.. We are already seeing massive ecological change around the world, it will only get worse.

@lemongin

While global warming is of course real this year is also an el nino year. So having extremely unusually high temperature is to be expected. Hard to say how much of a factor global warming is on top of that, im sure its a factor too.

@DoesntExist

> You misspelled "you're" again.

And you are still trolling even though I have made it quite clear it is an typo that I have no intention of correcting due to the tedious and annoying nature of using apostrophe on my phone.

I also told you I wont invest time in you when you are trolling, and you continue to do so as per this above example which was already explained to you.

I will **not** respond to you again, troll someone else.

But just to note, mr researcher, my resume is literally in my fediverse vio, and it has my resume. On my resume it explicitly states my COVID-19 research, where it was done, and the results. The company I list in my resume publishes the actual peer reviewed journal articles on their site last I checked and still lists me prominently despite me having quit to start my own research company.

But hey a big smart academic researcher like you I'm sure already knew that and was just playing stupid right?

As I said, I have given you many opportunities to discuss in good faith, and yet you continue to troll, I will not respond to you again unless I get the impression it will be worth my time.

@justpeachy @Pineywoozle @realcaseyrollins @MoiraEve @georgetakei

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