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@freemo it's funny that on either side, two-thirds think their favorite will win.

@mjambon Thats why I created the poll. I had a theory that each side would have exactly the same ratio of people who thought their candidate would win... and I was right :)

@Gbudd why does it matter if you wound up voting for the guy who got 60% 40% or 5% as long as it was the right person?

@Gbudd What im gettign at is that while the system keeps 2 main parties,it doesnt dictate who those 2 main parties are. In the course of history in america a main party has bee replaced with a third party (and once that happens the old party never becomes a main party again) 8 times. In all examples the third party had <5% support the previous year jumping to majority support the next.

So by all means accept that 2 parties are likely to win. But also accept that who those two parties are can readily switch on a dime. So the logic fails that you know which 2 parties you should vote for. And logic dictates when you have to monumentally unqualified and racist candidates as your 2 party choices that this year, and the next few elections to come stand a very good chance of flipping who those parties are.

@Gbudd The only reason you have those two choices is because everyone in unison says what you say. Like somehow everyone recognizes there are 2 evils and then a bunch of not 2 evils, but we all agree those 2 evils are our only choice cause everyone else thinks it.

Its idiotic and just a shared delusion (not calling you an idiot, just the idea)

@SirBemrose

> The difference, of course, is that one side has mountains of evidence (that you'd never see if you only watch corporate media), and the other side has the fraudulent Steele Dossier. But hey, keep thinking they're somehow equivalent if it makes your feel better.

QED This is pretty much word for word what the left says too. I feel like if you were in a room with a leftie you two would just be completing each others sentences.

@volkris @mk

@SirBemrose

I love how the crazies on the right sound exactly like the crazies on the left at this point. The left is on about their russian conspiracy and how it stole the election in Trumps favor, meanwhile the right has their own crazy conspiracy QAnon theory that the election was stolen for Biden.

It is almost indistinguishable at this point.

@volkris @mk

@mk

The answer to this is important: Trump's unforced choices as to how he conducted himself turned off so much of the public that they'd rather vote for the senile and dim witted person heading the dystopian nightmare you described above.

The worse terms one uses to describe the worse that reflects on .

Describe Biden as bad as you'd like. It just means Trump's political strategy still managed to face losing to THAT again.

You can namecall voters all you want, but it doesn't change that reality.

@freemo

Who do you think will win the presidential election, and who do you WANT to win?

@Gbudd The lesser of two evils is fine if your picking between a salad and a burger. Not when your picking between two overtly racist candidates when you have at least 2 other choices on the ballot. Saying your voting for one racist because you hate some other racist that is running and refusing to vote for the two other non-racist good people is **not** picking the lesser of two evils, its literally just picking evil when you had non-evil choices.

@mk

You said like a fucking moron blaming me for the problems of the left for ::checks notes:: agreeing with you that biden is a senile ass.

@freemo "Did you say anything stupid? And by that I mean, did you say anything?" -- Best legally relevant line from Breaking Bad.

Seriously, deals are made after you have a lawyer.

A lesson from "The Lives Of Others": the guilty person, if interrogated, will cry or get emotional. The innocent will get angry. One thing hardened psychopaths have is the ability to display some "righteous anger" even if they are guilty as hell. That often gets them out of trouble.

@Gbudd Honestly i feel like if your top priority isnt ensuring both loose then your doing it wrong. They both have such extremely over the top racist histories that i cant imagine being able to support either and still sleeping at night. But thats just me.

@mk

Of course he is senile and dim witted. But you said your issue was with the currect government. That implies you meant everyone which is half dems and half gop.

@mk Oh so your issue isnt with biden but rather the whole governement, both left and right... yea sure i agree with your statement then.

@mk kuku for wanting biden to win, or for thinking he will win?

I mean i think thinking he will win isnt that crazy, but I agree **wanting** him (or Trump) to win is certainly a bit kuuku

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