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@AT1ST

That adds up for a studio in some expensive cities. But again if 1K is too expensive for you then you probably should be renting a room, not a studio. The most expensive area in the USA to rent (manhatten) has rooms that are quite a bit cheaper than that. Go an hour outside of manhatten even cheaper still.

@MisuseCase @knittingknots2

@AT1ST

Im not sure what those items cost. Are you willing to give the name of the area your in?

@MisuseCase @knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

Of course it can. When did I say we were talking about independent physical structures? A home can be a condo for example.

And no i read, its you who arent reading what **I** said, and I agree, you arent a productive person to talk to.

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

Right, but not because the rent was simply too high, but because they choose places that were well beyond their means and were irresponsible and had far more space than they needed (often renting apartments intead of rooms).

For every single person I helped and is now out of poverty and doing well they had to adjust how they spent money and be more responsible. Once they did they had no trouble affording their rent, once they picked a place they could afford.

@AT1ST @knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

Yup, the definition of "housing unit" is exactly as I described it. A unit for living such as a home meant to house an entire family **or** person. So entire homes count as 1 housing unit, even if they house 10 people (a family)... as I pointed out.

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

As a matter of charity I take people into my home who are homeless and give them a place to live. This is usually a mutli-year process as I help them get on their feet and out of poverty. I have done this with many people.

Virtually every person I ever helped who was homeless had horrible money management issues and overspent on things they couldnt afford, including rent (before they became homeless)... Yes it absolutely is most people who are in this situation. Not surprisingly almost all of them were in denial about their habits and wasnt until they were back on their feet and doing well they realized their bad habits and corrected them.

@AT1ST @knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

What? Well there is yourproblem... Why would you compare housing units, which are design to house whole families, to number of people? One person isnt living in a housing unit for 4 people.

You count **living space** one person should be rending one small room not a housing unit. If you are a family with multiple members then you might rent a whole home, at most.

@knittingknots2

@AT1ST

> If this were true, people wouldn't be trying to rent in apartments in cities, and simply go for the places "1 hour or so commute of their jobs".

How ya figure? Most people dont pick the cheapest option, most people are very irresponsible with their spending and will get a place they cant afford because they want to be close to the bar or have a nice place. Thats part of the problem.

@MisuseCase @knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

> There are homes for rent within an hour of my job and they’re all very expensive.

Then if there isnt a single affordable option then the problem is your pay is too low (or the homes are too expensive), not the qty of homes. Still I'd be very skeptical there isnt a cheap room to rent anywhere in that area.

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

There are 357 million bedrooms in the USA and 323 million people... There is literally enough room for every single person to have their own bedroom. Since in reality we have 2 people to a bedroom in most cases we are talking about x2 more housing space than people...

Yea there are more than enough houses.

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

Most likely there is at least one home for rent within the hour or so commute radius for your job. If your claiming there isnt I'd be really curious what area your even talking about.

That said no.. what I am saying is if the areas you have to pick from to move to dont have job options for you there, that is a problem with the job market, it doesnt mean there arent enough houses.

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

No they arent. The convention ont he fedi is to keep people at the bottom and the first person tagged at the top indicates who you reply to.

Some servers (perhaps yours) will auto tag people, others dont do that, it depends on the software your on.

Even when it is automatically done the convention is often to leave it anyway as it gives an explicit indication as to who is directly being responded to, something you can do if you leave off the OP as the OP wont know when you are addressing them by moving their name back tot he top. So its a convention usually maintained regardless (though you dont have to).

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

Which to my point, then you shouldnt be looking locally. You should be looking in areas where there is no local crisis. Showing it isnt a qty issue, you have options just not options that match what you want (something in a specific area).

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

You have no clue what my idea of the problem actually is, you didnt ask. But it isnt qty, yes they exist.

Now saying "they arent where the jobs are" that at least gets closer to an aspect of the problem. But that also is in line with what I said, it isnt a quantity issue.

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

Right we arent talking about the places that arent for rent that are abandoned. I'm talking about actual homes up to code, more than enough for rent to cover all homeless people several times over. It isnt a quantity issue.

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

No, In fact there are more houses currently open for rent then there are homeless people in the USA. So we know for a fact the issue isnt that there arent enough homes.

@knittingknots2

@Nonilex

Journalism **shouldnt** make money. If you make money you loose journalistic integrity as your goal is to maximize profits, not facts.

The only way you can have journalistic integrity is if you have no obligation other than the objective truth. Trying to be popular is what ruined journalism.

@timkmak

Awww how cute, they think they have real elections in russia :)

@knittingknots2 Great indicator and proof that most people are irresponsible with their spending and tend to rent places outside of their means.

This isnt a graphic showing rent is too high, its a graphic showing people are irresponsibly spending their money by signing onto rent deals they cant afford.

@FeralRobots

Ok. Thanks for the toxicity. Bang up job defending the cause you got going there.

@cturnbow @lizstl13