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@PattyHanson

ok

@mcnado

@mcnado

Thats not how science is done. The existence of low-confidence studies that produce outliers is not the same as saying a literature review has consensus within that range.

No reasonable person would look at the literature on this and assert that ANY of the numbers have enough confidence to start telling the general public figures. The only responsible response is "We dont know what the figures are but the highest confidence studies are in the 15% and less range, and almost all studies show very little consensus"

@mcnado

We wear full PPE, the patients are in a hospital setting.

I suspect I didnt catch it from working with patients at all, I suspect everyone gets it this often. The only difference is because I get a PCR test multiple times a week that i actually find out every time i get it which as i said is almost always asymptomatic. When i test positive it gets sent over to a lab for verification.

I am not required to PCR test that often, I just do it as part of the test process when i use the equipment each day.

@PattyHanson

@PattyHanson

I would recommend against using personal anecdotes to get a sense of the commonality in the general population. But it can give us a bit of a sense of the overhyping I suppose. I myself, as a COVID research scientist I work with patients often. As such I get it often. I have had it a total of 7 PCR confirmed times so far. Of those times only 1 of them did I even get symptoms where I would have known I had the disease at all. I have no post-covid symptoms.

Part of the problem is that the data is very skewed and hard to reconcile. The people who actually wind up in studies tend to be a very very small portion of the people who actually get COVID, in fact most people who get COVID will never even know they had it.

@mcnado

@mcnado

Sorry but thats just not true. I will try to find it for you but the last attempt i saw at finding a mean for the prevalence among existing studies produced a value from 11% to 16%. Couple that with the fact, again we cant remove the placebo effect from the reality the actual numbers are almost certainly skewd quite a bit below this.

@mcnado

Sorry my tone may be a bit on the harsher side than you deserve. But you get my point.

@skyblond I usually recommend you keep the original key and encrypt it and secure it away. At the very least you shouldnt be using your master key anyway and should use subkeys.

@mcnado

See this is what I'm talking about. An actual review of the literature would show the prevelance of post-covid syndroms is not yet known, the studies we do have range from <10% to 30%/35% at the absolute highest end. Yet you are 1) quoting it as if its well established, it is not 2) picking from the highest end of the spectrum (fear mongering).

Couple this with the fact that there is a great deal of fear, and an impossiblity to test for this in a double-blind fashion you get a recipe for disaster one would expect highly inflated numbers due to the placebo effect alone.

As a COVID Research scientist myself, and you as a doctor, we need to hold ourselves to higher standards when we state things as fact. You cant just cherry pick a study that gives the number you want, we have to be mindful of the consensus and the body of literature and leave our personal biases out of it.

@skyblond I use yubikeys and ssh so i can just ssh from any computer just need the hardware key

@skyblond gpg keys FTW :)

@mcnado

> but to what end?

Largely my concern is fear mongering (perhaps unintentional). There has been a great deal of over-hyping COVID and has caused people to be dispreportionaltly scared of the disease and its consequences. While it is of course a serious disease people have heard so much disinformation to make it sound scarier than it is that people are often irrationally afraid of it relative to the risks.

Saying its common makes people think most people who catch it will start having heart problems when in fact a very very small portion of people who catch it will. So that needs pointing out.

@levisan the bigger benefit is the sound insulation

@stux

Dragon name suggestion: Modo, short for Komodo

@the_Effekt

I want to create a factually accurate RPG. It would still be filled with wizards, its just that their magic doesnt actually do anything but they are all too stupid to realize magic isnt real. So your fighters are left to fight all the battles alone while the wizards pretend to cast spells but are completely useless.

@stux Wizards are a very real part of history, or at least, people who thought they were wizards :)

@mcnado

Common? Patients who have had COVID have only a 20% increased risk of AFib post infection. Thats hardly "common" that would make it fairly rare.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-16113-6

@stux

Factually accurate? :)

@jaysonmassey

More a problem of people renting property well beyond what they need or can afford.