🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

Thanks to this post QOTO is currently being linked from HackerNews in the #1 spot. Our instance is getting a lot of exposure as is this very important issue.

@freemo https://toot.aquilenet.fr/@linuxfr/104768137100288136

@freemo Thanks, have done part of that, so copied the text then linked to your full post, which has the links to the screenshots, also added my comment at the bottom (made it clear it is my comment) to say the fediverse works in a different way.

The problem is ,lst year Mastodon hit the main news, as lots of people in India moved to the fediverse,

If this story hits the media it will be twisted, journalists will go out and search for this hate content, and say it is easy to find.

To day is that big march in Washington DC. so this could be a convienient time for Google to 'look' like they are doing something.

Interestingly Protonmail are on both Gab and mastodon, which does show that the two are separate networks otherwise there would be less need or they would have to be on ALL the different instance types I guess.

Lets see what happens, we need to remind the world that 18 months ago facebook allowed live streaming of a mass murder terror attack in New Zealand, and also it is still accused of not dealing with child abuse properly.

More ammo Britain first is still trending in the UK, (has been all day) they are a racist hate group.

I wonder if the twitter app will be removed !!!?

@freemo even in France , well deserved too ! + 100

Just FYI I posted about this on my own feed and the post seems to be taking off at approaching 200 reboosts here, and I cross-post to twitter and its starting to take off there too even though the account there isnt too active.

I have a few friends in google I'm tempted to ping though I doubt they would be able to know or do anything. I am also tempted on passing this along to some of my tech reporter friends see if they want to pick up the story.

https://qoto.org/@freemo/104765288863293481

@leyonhjelm @tateisu @Gargron @p

Holy crap, google is apparently taking down all/most fediverse apps from google play on the grounds that that some servers in the fediverse engage in hate speech. At least three apps I know of anyway and I'd imagine the others will follow soon under the exact same reasoning.} Seems to be the case with Husky, Fedilab, and "subway" tooter.

this is a scary precedent if google play is going to ban any apps that can in any way be used to access content with hate speech. So what about a forum client, do they take that down just because there is a forum somewhere on the internet posting hate speech?

This is particularly worrisome because for most people Google Play is the only way they understand to install apps at all.

Picture attached of one of the notices received by fedilab.

https://toot.fedilab.app/@fedilab/104761140268193772

https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/104763960269049818

@fedilab @tateisu #fediverse #mastoadmin #freespeech #censorship

@valleyforge @freemo @realcaseyrollins @realcaseyrollins If I did panic and shoot him 7 times in the back before he grabbed an alleged knife, then I should be held responsible for that. Don’t pick up a gun if you can’t handle being in danger without shooting wildly.

@freemo @khird A lot of hate and aggression is on random websites... So is this the time to ban all browsers? Or shut down the internet as a whole, problems would dissappear. Or create something like Great Chinese Firewall... is this direction world want to choose?

@freemo Yup. Google's starting assumption is that the app and the service are controlled by the same organisation (and this is actually a valid assumption in most proprietary, and even several FOSS, apps). So consequently they can punish you for mismanagement of your service by interdicting your app. Now we come along with our federated peg and it doesn't fit neatly into their hole for siloed apps, and their assumption breaks down.

@freemo just wait until they hear about the internet and what you can say in a phone call or send in a messaging app.

I was notified that @tateisu's Mastodon app "Subway Tooter" has received a warning from the Google Play Store citing user-generated content that "incites discrimination".

A Mastodon app does not host or promote any content. The user types the address to connect to. The responsibility of moderating resides with that server. So unless Google is going to drop Chrome, Firefox and Opera from its platform, this is completely out of line.

Source in Japanese:

https://mastodon.juggler.jp/@tateisu/104761652569820793