🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@freemo @trinsec There are some jobs that are incredibly hard to automate. Strawberry growers have been funding research into how to automate picking strawberries since the 1980's. It is hard labor intensive work and the first person who can do it successfully will be a billionaire by the end of the year. In spire of directed research and huge potential profits, "Pick the red fruit gently without damaging the plant or the green fruit." Is still not even close to reality.

@freemo @trinsec @jimvernon

I more or less agree with freemo (with some big caveats), but I want to add some context and potential solutions:

Assume that each job has a set of requirements that we'll call {R}, and for each unique {R} there exists a real value produced when a person that meets those requirements is employed there, called V. Thus, for the set of all jobs {J} there exists the set of all requirements for all jobs {{R},{R},{R},...} and values produced {V}, and people are compensated for a portion of V they provide to the company by doing the work.

If we assume that requirements are correlated to someone's intelligence (again, *assume* is the key word), even if we also assume that jobs are distributed IDENTICALLY to the intelligence distribution, freemo has a point.

Namely, there may exist jobs with values of V that fall below the minimum wage, M. If this is the case, those jobs must be collected and extended such that their values V > M; however, this necessarily expands the set of requirements for these now hybridized jobs (or {R1}+{R2} => {R1+R2} for all jobs where V<M).

Thus, if the minimum wage is raised too high (or alternatively, there are too many applicants with insufficient requirements for the lower end of the requirements distribution), we risk creating a class of unemployable people as a vertical line moves left to right along the bell curve chopping the lower end off completely. A great example of this in the intelligence space was what the US discovered when they relaxed their IQ requirements when training soldiers for the Vietnam war, and why those IQ requirements were reinstated. Unfortunately, that means that 10%(not sure of the actual stat here, but I think it's close) of the populace in the US is "not fit for military duty", and in that case, there are vanishingly few jobs for which they will provide value and thus be employable.

Now, there are a lot of assumptions baked in here, and I don't think this outcome is the *right* one. There are a lot of screwy things going on right now with the asinine "'growth' at all costs" mentality (and the private equity firms that accompany it) currently plaguing our economy and as a result vulnerable people are marginalized. I am of the mind that "Welfare Capitalism" that was pioneered by early GE and other US companies can and should become the more popular method of economic growth and stability, as it was what provided the conditions of the 50s and 60s, and that everyone should be able to find work. With that being said, in our current economic environment, and without substantial changes to it, I have to reluctantly agree with freemo.

@freemo Fun bit of trivia, some left wing anarchists are anti-union.

I'll have to investigate what the reasoning is. I looked up worker cooperative, but YT didn't offer any clarity.

I am completely new to this world. Everything I know is from the internet - hamstudy.org & YouTube primarily. The prospect of communicating with satellites is thrilling to me! I'm also interested in the "surival" uses of alternative forms of communication. #introduction #ham

"Stack Overflow's decline is partly self-imposed, but also somewhat out if its control"

https://newsletter.devmoh.co/p/the-fall-of-stack-overflow-explained

sad truth: as long as instances like .art keep moderating as they do ("proactively", guilt-by-association, etc.), Mastodon and the fediverse as a whole will stagnate.

I get that people want to keep it "manageable", but you also want more people to adopt the concept and ideology so we are not dependent on centralized services.

but new users will leave right away if they have to deal with federation issues if they can't interact with friends.

@freemo I mentioned it the other day. It's a masterpiece.
https://qoto.org/@davoloid/110793613271145818

@freemo
"1) I havent seen the barbie move"

I mean even as a trans person, I don't feel like it's particularly important to do a blanket ban on an entire, heterogenous organization just because one arm does a transphobia. I've been kinda bristling lately about how reactive the fediverse is sometimes, to the point of harassing others (I'm sure defederation isn't the only thing the #BBC will experience today).

At the same time: it's important, as part of the fediverse experiment, to detach ourselves from wanting to make that line go "up and to the right".

I feel like the fediverse has the ability to allow for both "let's grow a lot!" people, as well as people who prefer more limited, cozy, proactively safe communities.

I think talking about it in terms of what "the fediverse" should do is the wrong way to go about it: I think we need tools/instances/software to enable both. I think this is possible, but our tooling just plain ain't there yet.

@freemo sounds a lot like the culture i encountered when trying to interact with the Pleroma dev team, minus the blocking. people with all the maturity of a 12 year old.

People keep posting screenshots of this article without context, so here’s the whole article. This sort of adaptation happens naturally when people move, you adapt to new hotter weather or new colder weather.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/body-build-tolerance-heat-heres-123602520.html

I assume you get why it's not a nice thing to say that "slavery helped black people in some ways" but I think some people miss why this particular idea is *exceptionally* racist.

One of the main arguments to justify slavery was that it "civilized" black people by making us Christian & teaching us obedience to our "betters." Black people were "lucky" or "better off" as slaves.

It assumes that when people were enslaved they had no skills, nothing to offer, that they were basically animals.