IF existence is tied so strongly to money and food etc (and yes we want to sort that) how does one come out of this very sharp ultimatum and vicious cycle ?

The rest below is less important but there isn't obviously a short answer in that chain to answer that above sentence (other than talking about it) so always more to it... have a look

For example I want to live but everything is based on a BS job or actually JOBS themselves in the first place are a Gov-created artificial extension of themselves and what almost ONLY helps pay them more than anything useful... so to work and exist we end up paying them to do more bad while arguably be allowed to be alive or die out if we are out of supply line :/
Honestly nobody would expect it as such a locked game from the very beginning (by design and war-like territorial mentality) but they got it down from the beginning if not worse now...

I could go on and on to do a podcast with you all about it but seriously basing life on basically the artificial things to start with that grew us all, and 'helped' keep us alive renders the 'fixing real problems' useless unless you're kind of suicidal Mad Max character (or Bruce Willis / Mel Gibson if you like with all the long shot type stuff)... it's like asking people to do the high jump or pole vault with the bar high up in the sky while not robbing the store for basic food - so I want to solve this rather than heckle or say fuck this or that.

So we're all helping with bits we can but still it's like food, money, doh!... doh!
[ awkward looks at each other... shrug ]

I think we need something doable to bring the bar down, as they (we also) deliberately make it so high in how we do things and do the mistake to charging / paying for life in the first place instead of giving it / oaying forward. We fork ourselves with decision making based on poor-inducing money. Anyway...

We (the clever now not wanting to use money primarily) need to work out how to make it possible so it's not just that gov way or the highway with no gas AND make a middle way with a doable, logical, incremental thing (or whatever) for people to bring bar down at least while feeding themselves and finding something to do (sometimes we don't even want the food the keeping busy is important!!)
without all needing to be extreme... because it's sure as hell still a hell trying to work for free and finding something 8¬]

So I've been offering labour for free for ages and come across others that nobody can seemingly do anything with, aside for small gestures and projects can't go anywhere without money and a whole heap of mistrust (not from my side), so I'm still happy to do for free but I'm starting to die already waiting so long and it's like people don't believe it's possible anyway to give others something to do if not the world to their own children (again another thing to solve!). So it feels like we ourselves are looking at people (me) as boxes of specialisation only and often first asking what they do for a living (the kinds wrong measurement of a person right? based on those 'professional' government tax boxes and setups) and not understanding how people are more than just 1 skill and can do many things for hours on end... for more than 1 person AND yeah I'll keep my day job too!

Everyone in all relationships has the 'job' (responsibility) to explore this or else face the capitalistic containers encroaching only too happy to help you look at each other in a cheapening/falsely inflated market AND say they are taking more money from you again. "Welcome to the world kids. Gotta go work now... See you next week"

So "Dear Aral-like people... I'm looking for more to do... can you suggest something?" And don't expect me to do all the hard work in trying to be a magic answer, you have to be excited / believe / etc... that in the many there is some magic but we might have to accept help from average or dig the geniuses out from the programming holes they like to dig into only to realise it's humans again that need sorting not the code that Alphabet soup companies takes over after and locks us out of!

" Oh hi I saw your message / email / note on the noticeboard..."
" I'm sorry I don't see how we can use you at the moment and it's nice you do things for free .... "

(no sarcasm or big bitterness here just reality - and if I'm wrong somehow other people do something better and get the understanding that THIS IS THE INTERNET that's why I'm the weird person contacting you (lol) then let me know as logically that's what we probably need... but still the greats don't seem to get that... maybe they don't have the answers or the communication skills but actually the answer is to just go forward and get through awkwardness and soon you'll realise whose worthy of time and who is not... no other way and since most are genuine I feel we could start anytime now and I'm happy to 'process' people to see what they can do in a nice way for humanity.

I'm writing here so it's not just sentiments or skyscraper expectations from any level of food / survival needs....
Not just running after those festival speakers :> for real examples

No heckling anyone on a platform I believe in.

Again, writing short or speaking short is obviously not proportionate to what needs understanding for good reason (and this is what the good work is, everyone talking more personally) because when there is a long chain there are big gaps in people's understanding. And even with pro's, having sapience above that is important and more human. No need for Olympic style attitudes.

I guess a short sentiment is nice.
And this long text can be interpreted otherwise when it's equally sympathetic or not trying to be harsh.
Hmm

For those clever or who can hold conversation, please step up will you - we're dying out here and being drained... the least we could do is pay our respect, learn to fight nicely, help you in our free time instead of watching Netflix and feel our achievement today was to 'complete watching a the whole series' (no I don't do this series stuff any more!)

In the case of ' improving lives ' or ' real problems ' outside of correcting the will of those with power who are multiplying and spawning things, I'd like for people like you, you and you (not just Aral) to do the mention way of trying to find answers, even a bit of painful conversation otherwise it's a bit rich (no idea what that means but until we get into audio chat I guess there's not going to be much nice comeback about it). So just message me directly and privately whoever you are as you must be special if you have some answer (or if can handle the answer itself as the audio conversation that helps upgrade us all) without expecting it all or any tricky business...

@aral